Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Campaign Sources: The Romney Campaign was a Consultant Con Job
Red State ^ | November 9, 2012 | Ben Howe

Posted on 11/09/2012 6:19:37 PM PST by upbeat5

If you spend your time watching politics and haven’t been hiding in a deep depression since Tuesday, you’ve probably been hearing a lot about “ORCA.” According to the Washington Post, ORCA “was designed as a first-of-its-kind tool to employ smartphones to mobilize voters, allowing them to microtarget which of their supporters had gone to the polls.”

There is now widespread condemnation of the program as being sloppy and poorly deployed.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: con; consultant; job; orca; romney; romneycampaign
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-149 next last
To: muawiyah

That’s management everywhere. Which party does the postal union donate more campaign money to?


121 posted on 11/10/2012 10:14:49 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 118 | View Replies]

To: Kenneth J. Conner

Makes sense. Thank-you.


122 posted on 11/10/2012 10:15:34 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 119 | View Replies]

To: blueunicorn6
The Democrats have a pretty good intelligence gathering service.

Why do you think Obama moved the 2010 CENSUS into the White House?

With that kind of raw data at your disposal, what could you have done? ANYONE could be elected with that data.

123 posted on 11/10/2012 10:42:22 AM PST by superloser
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: socialism_stinX

The last Gallup poll before the hurricane had Romney with a 5 point lead among likely voters


The likely voter model was wrong. The Democrats were able get a lot of new and unlikely voters to the polls on Election Day. Pretty much all the polls of registered voters had Obama leading.


124 posted on 11/10/2012 10:53:51 AM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | View Replies]

To: virgil
They should reduce reliance on consultants and listen to real experience from party leaders and those loyal to their party.

Why are we not taking lessons from the opposition? They WON after all.

Obama refused to use the "party consultants" and instead put together his own team that was loyal only to him.

He won. Twice. People seem to ignore that so I'm going to say it again and again until it gets through to them.

Obama WON. TWICE. There are lessons here to be learned.

Why are people ignoring this bit of obviousness and instead wanting to go back to the GOP-E for "advice" when we all know that doesn't work?

If you want to win, you have to have a number of things in place. Here they are:
- A team that is loyal to the candidate, not anyone else
- A demographic database which has every single voter in it and their voting history
- A team dedicated to contacting voters who have been identified through demographic and behavioral analysis as being receptive to the message
- A team dedicated to sifting through various methods of messaging and delivering the message in a manner the voter will accept it. Here's a hint: Direct mail-bomb to a zip code and buying air time on 60 Minutes is not enough anymore.
- A method of communicating the message to those voters (hint: not everyone watches Fox News) - A team in place to reach out to 'other groups' (Ron Paul voters, anyone?) and persuades them
- A team in place to take people to the polls and get a ballot in their hands (yes, this is still important)
- A team in place to relay information to central command so central command can keep track of the numbers so they know when to hold out and when to concede

One last thing that you require above all else -- a Project Manager who keeps track of all of this, not a campaign manager. Get a project manager on it to make sure the operational bits are all happening and reports back regularly to the candidate and the campaign manager. Both the candidate and the campaign manager have enough to do. Get a project manager on the tactical bits to make sure things are executed.

Its really not that difficult but it does require a high level of coordination and a willingness to get modern.

That's all. This is not difficult, people. But it requires one thing that the GOP doesn't have: People loyal to the CANDIDATE as opposed to loyal to either the party or their own pocketbooks. People like US for example. Not people like the Washington DC wine and cheese crowd.

125 posted on 11/10/2012 11:27:19 AM PST by superloser
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: superloser

Excellent point.


126 posted on 11/10/2012 12:07:27 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 123 | View Replies]

To: ROCKLOBSTER

makes my nose feel good


127 posted on 11/10/2012 1:24:35 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 120 | View Replies]

To: superloser
No doubt the Obots thought they could get their hands on the raw data and it'd be so good ~ but they found out very quickly how stupid they were.

We had a top postal manager once demand that all the reports (Minor ones to be sure) of a certain kind should be in his office on Monday morning.

The guys spent the weekend loading his office rather than the several 60 foot trailers ordinarily used to haul them away to our mailer.

He never did that again.

I'm pretty sure the White House wouldn't have been able to handle the the statistical research data forms for just Arlington Virginia ~ the Census is huge!

128 posted on 11/10/2012 1:29:44 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 123 | View Replies]

To: superloser

Romney certainly blew the loyalty thing. He had his stalwart 20% ~ but that doesn’t do the job.


129 posted on 11/10/2012 1:32:31 PM PST by muawiyah
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 125 | View Replies]

To: muawiyah
Romney certainly blew the loyalty thing. He had his stalwart 20% ~ but that doesn’t do the job.

Correct. I was going to crawl over broken glass to vote against Obama. He had me just because the alternative was known and horrible.

For whatever reason, the word "coalition" has been lost. It needs to be rediscovered.

130 posted on 11/10/2012 1:49:10 PM PST by superloser
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 129 | View Replies]

To: upbeat5
I sent this to a consultant friend of mine. I can't repeat what he said. It was bleepity, bleep, bleep, followed by the word absolute and cluster with four additional letters. What a snowjob.

I will say that from what I saw, the lawyers for Romney group, at least locally, did a good job considering the Orca mess. We could have used more challengers, but they don't grow on trees.

131 posted on 11/10/2012 1:56:21 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek
In many cases they destroy the candidate they’re working for as soon as a better deal comes along.

Ed Rollins. He always turns on whoever he hires. The big name consultants are adapt at one thing. CYA. They want their next job.

Most candidates like to delegate the administrative functions and follow their consultant's advice. That's all well and good, but candidates need to have good supervision of their campaigns. Not micromanage, but supervise.

132 posted on 11/10/2012 2:12:45 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: socialism_stinX
Obama campaign knows how to do one thing well. Get massive numbers from blue centers. Most democrats self-pack. We know that. They know that. If you compare county maps from 2008 to 2012, it's clear Romney did better. However, those massive democrat areas got the vote out bigtime. Knock and drag.

I think pollsters underestimated Detroit (And similar) turnout.

133 posted on 11/10/2012 2:29:31 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 108 | View Replies]

To: ROCKLOBSTER
Rocklobster, I agree with you. People that wouldn't vote for Romney because he was a Mormon definitely made a huge difference. Now they'll b*tch and moan for the next four years on how we are losing our country and religious liberty is being eroded away. It'd almost be funny if it weren't so deadly serious.
134 posted on 11/10/2012 3:08:01 PM PST by MacMattico
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 115 | View Replies]

To: ROCKLOBSTER

Feel big now?

Glad I could help.


135 posted on 11/11/2012 2:46:54 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: KittenClaws

Yeah.

You should see my last post. It was all about Forest Gump style tripe recipes.

Please feel free to participate.


136 posted on 11/11/2012 2:58:00 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 135 | View Replies]

To: ROCKLOBSTER
I'm glad I could contribute to your self-esteem.

Feel good?

I know it does. Some folks can't feel good until they feel superior. So, be superior. No skin off of my nose..

137 posted on 11/11/2012 3:04:48 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | View Replies]

To: MacMattico
People that wouldn't vote for Romney because he was a Mormon definitely made a huge difference. Now they'll b*tch and moan for the next four years on how we are losing our country and religious liberty is being eroded away. It'd almost be funny if it weren't so deadly serious.

Actually that is true, but honestly I wasn't even thinking of that, but rather that conservatives considered him to be the same as Obama...which is simply not true.

138 posted on 11/11/2012 3:07:34 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | View Replies]

To: KittenClaws
I'm glad I could contribute to your self-esteem. Feel good? I know it does. Some folks can't feel good until they feel superior. So, be superior. No skin off of my nose..

Will you mellow out woman. Geesh just because I had a little fun at your expense. I'm sorry!

By the way, did you ever apologize for the 900 duplicate posts?

139 posted on 11/11/2012 3:11:21 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 137 | View Replies]

To: ROCKLOBSTER

My dear, don’t dish something out that you can’t take.

I’m supposed to mellow out because of your sense of fun?

Homey don’t play that. IOW What about my sense of fun?


140 posted on 11/11/2012 3:17:09 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 139 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140141-149 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson