Posted on 11/10/2012 4:14:47 AM PST by Kaslin
‘America...down the latrine in 2013.’
Don’t they head to the US if they can to get better medical treatment?
Ain’t gunna be the case much longer, dontchaknow.
GOP isn’t going to change the majority of the country’s ideological outlooks on abortion overnight—it’s been fairly static with few fluctuations for many years as evinced by this polling graph.
It would take decades to induce a fundamental cultural shift in how abortion is viewed, and it’s not really a political matter to be forced on society. Changing the cultural outlook is a long-term endeavor that’ll have to happen within homes, families, communities, person to person, etc.
Could’ve swore when I looked it up recently, that it said something to this effect. But I’ll double-check.
This was not a loss resulting from fraud. The race was not that close. This was a loss because we nominated Richie Rich with the personality of cardboard and the base was uninspired and stayed home.
Romney lost because Romney was uninspiring and allowed Obama to paint him as a rich corporate raider. That Romney never actually went hard at Obama is inexplicable. We have a deep bench for 2016, so I guess I am optimistic that we can turn this around. We just need to stop nominating weak and/or idiotic candidates.
First, there is no constitutional or any other right to vote in a Primary election. Primary elections are the creatures of the political parties, who can do whatever they want.
Secondly, there is no constitutional right to vote, at all. Especially in the case of the Presidency, it would be perfectly constitutional for a State Legislature to appoint its Electors, or choose them by lottery. The Constitution does place limits on what QUALIFICATIONS states may impose on voters (sex, age, race, poll tax) but states certainly could require solving Rubik's cube within 5 minutes or anything else desirable.
My post, however, accepted the notion of idiots voting in the general election. Getting them out of the primaries, where they don't belong and have no right to be, was my subject.
And, if you took what I said about your opinion to be "hurling insults", I apologize sincerely.
I agree, all these “woe be me, RIP USA” type comments are really grinding my gears. Yes we lost an election, it’s happened before and it’ll happen again in the future. If we can actually learn from our mistakes this time then perhaps we’ll win in 2016.
For starters, we need to get back to actual fiscal conservatism, not any of this big-government-with-less-social-but-more-military-spending crap. Let’s be honest we would easily wipe the floor if any of our actual weakass enemies tried to start a war with us, there’s no reason to waste even more tax dollars on what is already the highest budgeted military in the world. We don’t need so-called “conservatives” like Bush who waste money and put us in ridiculous debt, leaving the public to assume that’s what we all stand for.
Secondly, it may be hard but we’re going to have to let go of some of the social issues. Gays are nice issue to rant about but really they only compose a tiny minority of the population and we can hardly consistently claim to be small government if we try to interfere in their private affairs. Let them marry or whatever as long as no-one’s being forced into it, our movement is about personal responsibility and if people really want to risk facing the consequences of a homosexual life-style after death, well that’s their responsibility.
Abortion too... I’m not saying we have to drop our objections, God no, but we need to be careful what we say. ANYTHING involving rape and abortion should be reviewed twice before being said to check if our opponents could misrepresent it.
Finally, we need build up some better election strategies. Obama’s won twice on the back of a coalition (unemployed, racial minorities, liberals etc), we can do the same if we’re smart. A lot of conservatives don’t vote for us because they have the erroneous belief that we hate anyone who isn’t a white Christian. Heck, the Hispanic vote alone is probably enough to swing it our way if as the OP says, we learn how to connect with them.
This is the most important point of all, IMHO. The seeds that led to the left’s power were planted long ago, and they weren't planted by the DNC or any other American political organization. They were planted in the context of a long term goal by ideologues - foreign and domestic.
If you wanted to remove from the landscape the obstacle that America was to those worldwide who wanted to put in place the ‘all powerful-government knows best-central control model’ (no matter what you formally call it) there were finite ways to approach this - using our own open society against us.
We've all seen the ‘1963 Communist Goals for America’. It worked. This is exactly what we are dealing with. Society is most definitely manipulable. Propaganda works. Message control works. We've seen in over and over again in world history.
So, we must have long range plans, just as they did/do.
Sure but with a Republican House, they will still get the blame...
Crisps, BUSH still gets the blame....
And despite the huge poll numbers against obamacare that were consistent over multiple months, the jerk still got re-elected.
Let me ask it another way. Who decides who the idiots are who can’t vote in the primaries? As I said, I liked some of your ideas about closing the primaries, but apart from that, who makes the choice?
How about having the GOP governors organize to re-codify Election Law to assure, as best as possible, no fraud. And those governors who have state militia be sure to instruct them on procedures when fraud occurs.
The GOP governers are partially to blame for this fiaso on Tuesday.
7 Things The GOP Needs To Do To Start Turning It Around
We just had our chance and blew it.
Scrap the 7 things and just watch Obama ruin our republic in favor of muslimism.
Let’s stop being the party of white rich people businesses. Most Republicans that I know are hard working citizens, veterans, good ol’ boys, religious and family oriented. We need to focus on heartland and family not business. Business will be there anyway, we don’t need to preach to the choir.
This post is written in anger and frustration.
Angry that we continue to follow the Republican Party’s elite ignorance. A party that continues to pull defeat from the jaws of victory characterized by pompous fools who fulfill the sterotype built by the left.
Frustrated that the reality of politics is this: There will be no third party capable of competing with the coalition constructed by the dems. As a result, true conservatives MUST take steps to irradicate the ignorance of the Republican Party while still adhering to the core values of our forefathers (beliefs that I discovered are considered extreme by over half of my countrymen last night, BTW).
I have no solve for exactly how to accomplish this. Only advice based on a long military career in several foreign lands for how to defeat the dems once this is accomplished.
This thought process is based on the concept of irregular warfare with twists thrown in here and there for good measure.
With that, I provide the following advice for the good of the order.
LEADERSHIP: The old crew has proven either incompotent or outdated. McConnell and Boerner must go. They represent a failed plan to defend and resist without clearly explaining their position. They are content with looking like the bad guys and face public scorn when they don’t realize how important it is to manipulate a clearly left leaning MSM. They represent the failure of the last four years to our own and obstructionists to the opposition. We’ve got to show a new face to the nation. That is the genesis of rebuilding this movement. Ryan or Cantor in the House, Rubio or Demint in the Senate.
We also need a standard bearer and I see no one on the horizon with as much rockstar potential and substance as Rubio. These next four years must put him on the center stage with a unified and consolidated message. It also needs to protect him from the attacks from the left that are guaranteed to come.
Everything the Obamites used to deny, deflect, and difuse will be used againstt hem....including the race card. THAT is what will make Rubio a teflon candidate.
These men represent a change in a party that has been beaten soundly in the last two elections by a charlatan and his traveling circus. A fresh choice in leadership represents change you can TRULY beleive in from every angle. It marks a clear start from inside and outside when we actually started taking this enemy seriously.
GROUND GAME: It is IMPERATIVE to develop and foster an intricate ground game. It requires a MICRO-ANALYSIS of every county, every city, and every early and absentee ballot by demographic to find how how, why, and with what method they voted. The dems have built quite the coalition but it’s a house of cards; it’s a fractured coalition of single issue voters held together by a media-invested hollyweird worshipping demagogue. They can be piecemealed away bitby bit without sacrficing principle.
Give it to the dems on their “community organizing” machine. We don’t need to reinvent that model. We MUST develop our own. One that will INSTILL our principles in a language tailored to the audience. They’ve tailored theirs on the community organizer, we can create ours around the military special operator. This the winning of hearts and minds in our own third world backyard dem strongholds.
This isn’t as difficult as it sounds. It requires a patient and immediate effort that starts with the post election analysis looking not for what we WANT to find, but for the GROUND TRUTH. GROUND TRUTH is REAL INTELLIGENCE not Rovian number-crunching wishful thinking.
It will require an insurgent effort at the ground level. An infiltration into dem areas that we identify are weak or vulnerable to start cutting in to the blue.
The COIN (insurgeny/counterinsurgency)effort would include the identification of these areas, the inflitration of the areas through churches and charitable organizations AND PARTICULARLY THROUGH EDUCATION.
There ARE like thinkers in these communities. How do we find them? Ask Jesse L. Peterson. Ask JC WAtts and Herman Cain. They KNOW how to splinter these vulnerable areas off the blue.
The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who beleive in being left alone and naturally distrust the government. And they voted Obama? This is the epitome of the single issue voter. the RNC needs to go toe to toe, issue to issue with “the Race” and counter it in that community, in that language, at THAT LEVEL.
Think it can’t be done? SOF has been doing it since the end of World War II. It CAN be done.
WE must get deep into the education system to promote the ideals and values of conservatism that should be selling themselves. I’m not talking about traditional public schools and universities. They are ROTTED with liberals. They also aren’tthe keys to education in the 21st century.
I’m talking about the new way to educate - the online universities, the trade schools and nightschools. Corporate allies need to invest and educate with the ideals of economic and fiscal conservatism.
The RNC needs to lead and develop this effort. A novice like me can see that there is a disconnect between the voting habits of catholic-dominated hispanics and pockets of baptist blacks and their actual stated values. That disconnect can be exploited if it is done slowly, deliberately, and effectively.
INFORMATION WARFARE: We are ATROCIOUS AT THIS. Dems get a simple message out early and often. They poison the well and we are left to change minds rather than get the initial impression right from jump. We constantly play defense and think we are sooooo clever when dems (as they ALWAYS do) do something stupid or illegal and shocked when the media all but ignores it. We must take the offensive in getting up in every Candy Crowley, every George Stepenopolis’ face and call them what they are: democratic hacks posing as the “objective media”
We ABSOLUTELY MUST be proactive. We must attack at EVERY OPPORTUNITY then add each fail of the dems to a trend and theme. These themes must be simple, tailored, and repetitively broadcast to each target demographic.
We must look out beyond the 5 and 10 meter targets. We’ve got to effectively interpret what the dem message is on the horizon and confront it at all levels - from the national MSM level filtering directly down to the target group level. Even I can see what the talking points of the upcoming week are by watching the Sunday talking head programs. Defense is unacceptable. we can’t pretent that the most outrageous comment won’t gain traction then act surprised when weeks later, that theme picks up steam. Attack, attack, attack.
Alinsky tactics must be turned against their masters. There is GREAT power in ridicule and scorn. They make it too easy to use. It needs to be culturally tailored and consistent. Dennis Miller needs his own show on FNC AND a late night show on Fox. Let him source and promote culturally diverse conserative comedians that vulnerable areas can relate to and remember. Bold Fresh tours aren’t enough.
This is only part of an overall information operation plan that is constant in a simple party message and what it means to each target group.
WE DON’T DO THAT WELL. WHY NOT? I find it unbelievable that Obama has hijacked the reputation and imagery of the Party of Lincoln.
COIN operations involve a very in depth understanding of cultural idocyncracies and how best to exploit them to our advantage. It’s not a “wool-over-the-eyes” approach or a “free shit” approach like the dems sell. THAT ALWAYS COMES UP SHORT.
It’s a sell based on how it effects each target group and what it means to them. If it’s done right, I am CONFIDENT that the tenets of conservatism sell themselves.
In Civil Miltary Operations, assistance in areas that seem unrelated builds trust in the agency. Granted, there’s a fine line between assistance and the giving of free shit but, the special operations forces walk that line well. It can be done. Community outreach in areas that we identify, in ways that we haven’t before can build a larger tent without sacrificing our beliefs.
The military has been doing this in third world countries for years. We’ve been more successful in some areas, less successful in others. In the United States third world strongholds of the Democratic Party,I am confident that it can be done.
This is, by far, not the only avenue we’ve got to pursue in order to turn the tide.
But, if we are going to war, the RNC must look to the military to rediscover and reorganize. The number-crunching beancounters have their place in the organization but, on their best days, they can only identify who will and won’t vote Republican.
This is a “Hearts and Minds” effort.
It requires a new way to think about the political battlefield.
Rangers Lead the Way.
Yes its static at slightly above 50-50. And the polis needs to hear there are two sides to the argement like Reagan used to often do.
This is why pro-lifers should not be ashamed to articulate their position. “Like over fifty percent of the country, I am pro life....” “Like most Americans I am opposed to the government funding abortions.” “Yes...but what about the extremists who approve of abortion for sex selection....?”
Tjhe problem is not obama. the problem is not the Democrat Party. The problem is the people who vote to elect obama and Democrats to political office. So until the morality of the Nation changes, any talk of change is just pissing into the wind. The first liar will never top the second liar.
I would allow the State committees to define “real Republicans”, with the exception that I would not allow anyone who changed party registration within the past twelve months to vote.
I live in Pa. I know theres something wrong. If you want to close your eyes to it go ahead and blame the republican candidate. Thats what we continue to do and thats why in 2016 the same problem is going to com up.
I do agree with you on 2016 if you can’t get the WH take both the House and the Senate and force him to compromise.
Which is the problem. We need to fight the culture wars rather than being scared. The thing with Akin could have exposed the fact that the democrats do support unrestricted abortion.
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