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Did the Election Save ObamaCare?
Townhall.com ^ | November 10, 2012 | John C. Goodman

Posted on 11/10/2012 7:22:21 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 11/10/2012 7:22:25 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Three thing to consider:

Without the Presidency no chance of removing.
Without the Senate, same no chance.
Without a Civil War, same no chance.


2 posted on 11/10/2012 7:25:15 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Kaslin

The whole purpose of this law is to pound a once free people into communism.
The corrupt will now have the power of life and death over us.

I’ll say one thing for BHO - he is relentless, evil and unafraid. Look what he has done to us.


3 posted on 11/10/2012 7:33:05 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Logical me

When you look at this you can see how the political pendulum will swing.... it is sad but this is politics and reasons why things always shift. Obamacare will be an albatross for the Democratic Party for years... they will drown in it. They OWN it.


4 posted on 11/10/2012 7:36:51 AM PST by Republic Rocker
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To: Aria

The implications are staggering. Why the left fixated on health care is simple, everything you do in life can be related in some way to health care. Every move you make 24/7 can be regulated in the interests of health care. Your hobbies, health care. What you eat, health care. How you drive, health care. Gun ownership, health care. I could go on and on. As of today, there is not a thing we do that cannot be regulated by government hacks. We are at their mercy. No matter how much or little money you have, you are nothing more than a peasant serf to the Lords of the Government Class.


5 posted on 11/10/2012 7:43:41 AM PST by gusty
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To: Republic Rocker

The RAT solution will be to try to pass a single payer system to solve the growing problems.


6 posted on 11/10/2012 7:46:27 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Aria

The whole purpose of this law is to pound a once free people into communism.
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Our liberties and freedoms are irreconcilably incompatible with liberalism. What is clear at this point is that we cannot co-exist with liberals. They want control, we want to be free.


7 posted on 11/10/2012 7:46:51 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Oldexpat

BINGO!!!!!! You nailed it.


8 posted on 11/10/2012 7:47:37 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Kaslin

ObamaCare is designed to collapse the system. Once that occurs, the clamor for single-payer will be deafening. Then the left will oblige as their job will be done.


9 posted on 11/10/2012 7:48:58 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: gusty

To add, this octopus will reach beyond just the individual. Whole industries will be regulated out of existence in the interest of health care. It will be for the children’s health you know.


10 posted on 11/10/2012 7:49:28 AM PST by gusty
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To: Aria

What it comes to in the end, is that your health is a PERSONAL responsibility, now more than ever. Applying to the faceless and merciless dispensary for health services is likely to be met with stony indifference, if not outright denial. The medical practitioner may very well be somebody you have never had contact with, and there is no one-on-one relationship. All the very worst features of an HMO, with none of the spirit of shared camaraderie.

A person either becomes one’s own doctor, or they stand a very good chance of dying before the age of sixty. For sure this “free” health care is not going to be watching out for you.


11 posted on 11/10/2012 7:57:05 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: Kaslin

30 US states with republican governors now. Each state governor and state house has to answer to their own constituents. When the states are forced to start asking to raise taxes to pay for the costs of obamacare, the shyte is going to hit the fan.


12 posted on 11/10/2012 7:57:58 AM PST by mtrott
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I have followed Goodman for a long time...he is a brilliant health policy wonk. He was the one who championed Health Savings Accounts back in the ‘90s, but very few listened. He was right then, and likely right about most of what is in here now. Just awful...in so many ways as those above have stated.


13 posted on 11/10/2012 8:07:21 AM PST by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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Once an entitlement is law, the Republicans are blamed for not providing necessary funding. The Pubbies cave. End of story. Time to hunker down. We are srewed.


14 posted on 11/10/2012 8:12:19 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Kaslin

Once an entitlement is law, the Republicans are blamed for not providing necessary funding. The Pubbies cave. End of story. Time to hunker down. We are screwed.


15 posted on 11/10/2012 8:12:27 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Kaslin
ObamaCare is not paid for.

This is the Achilles heel. If the cajoneless kongress refuses to appropriate the money this monstrosity will and should wither on the vine.

16 posted on 11/10/2012 8:16:27 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Starboard

I wish we could secede .... I’d leave the west coast where I have lived all my life to go live in a free state.

Meanwhile I’m searching for a more free country, one with decent health care, who will take in refugees from the US of A.


17 posted on 11/10/2012 8:17:56 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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To: Oldexpat

That was the plan all along.


18 posted on 11/10/2012 8:19:11 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Kaslin

No, this does not have to mean Obamacare stays. It will be harder to fight but we must fight on. The fact that politicians like Boehner can use this election to ignore the real mandate on Obamacare is hurting us.

Boehner has to go, him and anyone else who defends this death knell to the greatest healthcare system in the world. We can keep fighting, the House can refuse to fund, the people can still be heard. As Rick Santorum said, “Don’t give this issue away, folks. It’s too important!”


19 posted on 11/10/2012 8:19:38 AM PST by Kenny (<p)
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To: Oldexpat
The RAT solution will be to try to pass a single payer system to solve the growing problems.

That's been the plan all along. We will end up with the equivalent of the bizarrely named NICE in the UK - you know, the one that puts people to death even though they weren't terminal.

20 posted on 11/10/2012 8:20:29 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 wasn't an election - it was a coup d'etat.)
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