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To: ravenwolf

Rom 13:1 MKJV Let every soul be subject to the higher authorities. For there is no authority but of God; the authorities that exist are ordained by God.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 7:16:59 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: AppyPappy

Rom 13:1 MKJV Let every soul be subject to the higher authorities. For there is no authority but of God; the authorities that exist are ordained by God.


But if you read the rest of the subject you can see a great contradiction in what Paul said.


3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

So if we read it the way it sounds then not only paul and peter and the other apostles but even Jesus were evil because they were killed by these same authorities.

I will also mention that John in rev said our fight was against spiritual wickedness in high places, and he did not mean in heavenly places because satan was cast down to earth
when the child of God went to be with God, the spiritual wickedness is in high places here on earth.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 8:56:49 AM PST by ravenwolf
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“Rom 13:1 MKJV Let every soul be subject to the higher authorities. For there is no authority but of God; the authorities that exist are ordained by God.”

In our country we have a constitution that rests its authority on the “consent of the people for and by the people”. We the People are the “higher authorities that have been ordained of God” that we are to be subject to. The people that have been elected are the expressions of our collective authority; they are the face of our expressed morality and ethics as a nation. No tyrants, no Kings to blame, our national failures are caused by the populace in the collective sense! Problem: By the Popular rejection of our God heritage, we are rejecting Godly wisdom in how the affairs of our nation are to be run. There are no corrupt kings that we can “blame”(since “we the people” are the highest authorities of the land) for leading us away from Godliness hence an avenue of plausible “blamelessness” on the part of the collective electorate is closed to us as a nation.

God will not be a party to ungodliness and must at some point withdraw the authority “of an ungodly people” to regulate themselves via republican forms of government as provided in our Federal and States’ constitutions. We have rejected the peace, wisdom and self order that flows from Mount Zion, hence we have chosen the gloom and doom of Mount Sinai as well as coming rule of tyrants and dictators under whom the righteous as well as the unrighteous will suffer!

God has given “we the people” over to our collective self folly. We have behaved and chosen foolishly, thus we have elected fools to rule over us!


36 posted on 11/12/2012 9:15:29 AM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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