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Queens gas-station owner spills on shortage and line lunacy
New York Post ^ | 11/12/2012 | The Gas Man

Posted on 11/12/2012 8:02:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Lines are way down today where I am on LI. Passed two stations with only about 6 or 7 cars waiting.

About the shortage, Cuomo and the media now blaming the people and not the distribution and power disruption.

Hopefully we won't have people here believing that BS.

21 posted on 11/12/2012 9:46:26 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: SoothingDave

It’s possible I was thinking too boolean. Here is what it said...
“When you sit in your car and idle, and you have the heat going, you actually burn quite a bit of fuel.”

The predicate “and you have the heat going” implies that if you did not have the heat going then it may not burn quite a bit of fuel.

Most likely residual grumpiness from last Tuesday on my part.


22 posted on 11/12/2012 9:54:54 AM PST by soycd
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To: soycd

“If it was the AC compressor loading the engine then it’s a different story”

The affects on gas mileage when using AC in a fine tuned automobile is negligable. Maybe 2 miles to the gallon. I know, I watched Mythbusters blow this theory up> :)

It is true though. It is a myth that excessive fuel is used while running the AC. Down here in Tejas, the AC is a necessity in the summer, if you don’t want to sweat your @alls off. I don’t lose mileage like some think one might. I still get 420 miles to a tank, with our without AC


23 posted on 11/12/2012 10:00:44 AM PST by Bruinator ("For socialism is not merely the labour question, it is before all things an atheistic question")
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To: SeekAndFind
"This fuel shortage is bringing out the worst in people."

Uhhh . . . Let me think . . . They're Socialist Liberals?

24 posted on 11/12/2012 10:03:23 AM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: soycd

Are you sure cars divert heat from the engine bloc into the cabin? I can get the heat working with the engine turned off and presumed there were electrical coils to heat the air.

I also wondered if it is even risked by automakers to divert engine bloc heat into the cabin due to the inherent safety risks - CO intake, fumes from heated oils and coolants, etc.


25 posted on 11/12/2012 10:12:04 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: NativeSon

>>Emergency response cannot address real emergency needs while coming to the aid of those with “compromised comfort”.

Exactly. Its the logical end to the entitlement society, where “wants” become “needs” and then they start making impossible demands on the system until no wants or needs can be met.


26 posted on 11/12/2012 10:18:07 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: SeekAndFind
I started seeing a lot of people bringing Poland Spring bottles and laundry detergent bottles to put gas in. One woman had a watering can. I tried to explain to her that it’s illegal, and unsafe, to put gas in a container like that. All she said was “Why?”

There are days, more of them recently, when the weight of human stupidity seems so crushing, that I sit back in amazement at the number of gas stations that don't blow up everyday from the actions of their customers.
27 posted on 11/12/2012 10:21:50 AM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: James C. Bennett

Most all liquid cooled internal combustion engines divert some of the coolant to a heater core radiator which has a fan that blows the heat into the passenger area. There would only be a risk of coolant leaking into the passenger compartment.

Not sure what an all electric car uses. I suspect a resistive heater element with a fan.


28 posted on 11/12/2012 10:27:02 AM PST by soycd
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To: Bruinator

Did they test the difference when sitting still? You wouldn’t get a lot of gain from reduced drag from having the windows up if you’re not moving.


29 posted on 11/12/2012 11:07:45 AM PST by Darth Reardon
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To: SeekAndFind

I neighbor of mine mentioned he was considering buying a tank like is used for storing fuel oil; illegally burying it in his back yard; and begining to fill it up for his car and generator in an emergency.

Neither for or against this, I am curious if there are evaportion and moisture concerns that a simple “fuel oil” tank (like for a “fuel oil” house heating system) might not take care of, particularly when his plan is for long-term storage only to be used in an emergency.


30 posted on 11/12/2012 11:22:50 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

If there’s a good aspect to hurricanes here in the deep south, it’s surely that as we deal with the ensuing hardship and deprivation, at least we don’t have to do it surrounded by northerners.


31 posted on 11/12/2012 11:29:03 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Wuli

One problem he could run into is floating the tank. If the ground water level gets high and the tank is empty the tank will float up out of the ground. I don’t know what they do to stop this but I have seen it happen.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 11:48:59 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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I can get the heat working with the engine turned off...

I've never owned a vehicle that could do that. What do you drive?

33 posted on 11/12/2012 12:44:31 PM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: FreeReign

Lines are way down today where I am on LI. Passed two stations with only about 6 or 7 cars waiting.

That’s not a bad wait. I run into that on a daily basis with people topping off when price is going down. Hoarders aren’t the smartest people around


34 posted on 11/12/2012 4:40:41 PM PST by Figment
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Gasoline today won't last three months before it starts to turn bad. You can put additives in it to lengthen it's useful storage life but even then I try to use it up within 6 mos. I add stabilizer to my generator fuel tank to get through the winter months when it gets used little. Same thing for all my gasoline powered motor vehicles. If not run the gas will go bad sitting in the tank if untreated. Therefore I don't even try to keep large amounts stored.
35 posted on 11/12/2012 9:14:26 PM PST by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport all illegal aliens. Americans demand those jobs back! Whooorah, Arizona!)
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