Posted on 11/12/2012 1:49:28 PM PST by JerseyanExile
What may weigh more than an M1 Abrams tank and carry 12 soldiers? The Army's Ground Combat Vehicle. New weight estimates for GCV, released this week by the Congressional Budget Office, will likely go over like a lead ballon with the program's critics in Congress and in the Army itself.
Depending on the model and add-on armor package, an M1 weighs 60 to 75.5 tons. According to the CBO report, the General Dynamics design for the GCV weighs 64 to 70 tons. BAE s proposal is still heavier, at 70 to 84.
Two years ago, when the Army withdrew its original Request for Proposals for the GCV and revised its requirements, part of the reason for the change was shock at the sheer weight of the proposed designs: 50 tons for just the basic vehicle, up to 70 with all the optional add-on armor packages for the most dangerous missions. "You're telling me this is going to be 70 tons, which is the same as an Abrams," Gen. George Casey, then Army Chief of Staff, said incredulously at the time, in an interview with Defense News. Now it looks like the revised requirements have led to a vehicle that's even heavier.
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The gas milage isso poor on the Abrams tank that it has to be hauled to the battle site on a trailer. big waste of money use drones instead.
This sounds like a replay of the Sgt York anti aircraft weapon. Sometimes the Army Ordnance people do the strangest things.
It was more of the wear and tear on the tank tracks and track pads that requires HETT units. The M1 meets the required 300 mile range, but that’s still a lot of movement on the tracks.
And drones can’t hold real estate.
Land dreadnought not unlike the German King Tiger.
Too heavy for bridges, especially in the Turd World. Too heavy to get into theater.
This is what happens when you design stuff by committee of contractors and risk-averse politicians.
Looks like a Bradley on steroids.....
Mission Creep gone horribly wrong??
FORD was responsible for that mistake.
They used the radar from the F-16, and during one demonstration, the Sgt York tuned in on the rotating fan blades in a nearby outhouse, sweeeping it’s twin 40mm canons across the spectator’s grandstand.
The gubmint was sold a bill of goods and fell for the BS that the GE turbine was better than the Continental piston engine.
They need to fire the people who wrote the specs.
They’re trying to build an invulnerable APC - and it just isn’t doable.
And building the Maus as an APC with a piddling 30mm cannon and an MG is simply ludicrous.
Diesels have a lot more power now than they used to back in the 1970s.
wasn’t there a movie about this? Kelsey grammar was in it?
Most of the middle east is a waste of sweat!
Cancel those. We need more money fo free cell phones
At 70 tons perhaps they’re planning to crush enemy formations under its wheels of terror.
Cancel those. We need more money fo free cell phones
I thought the M1 used the Honeywell AGT1500.
Can’t we just nuke our enemies and leave the boys out of this?
We know who they are. We know where they live. We know that nothing good ever came out of their turd-world ratholes and probably never will...
while it has been stated the MERKAVA can load and unload infantry from the rear doors, these are specifically designed for fast reload of ammunition. to load infantry would require removal of much of the main gun ammo so it is not a heavily armed/armored infantry carrier, nor was it intetnded to be.
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