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I agree there is a price difference. I expect that price difference will drive more vehicles to use natural gas in the near future. I do not want FReepers to expect a 10 to one price savings; that will not happen.

If Diesel is $4.00/ Gallon, and the spot market is around 36 cents / gallon, then it is plausible for long haul trucking companies to realize a 10/1 savings, (Optimistically) in fuel costs. (Under current market conditions.)

Now you may argue that in practice, the ratio may be 9 to 1, or 8 to 1, but it is still a huge price differential, and well worth the effort in the long run. (Given that gas stocks are at an all time high, and only looking to go higher.)

Consumers will have to satisfy themselves with a more modest price differential. Prices in my area are aroung $1.40/ GGE, but it is my intention to keep my prices at $1.00/GGE to help build a customer base and to spur usage of this fuel.

I believe that anything we Americans can do to cut the financial throat of the middle east is in the best interests of our nation. Making their oil worthless is a good idea for us. Let's starve the bastards and watch them die.

Who's talking about consumers? Wasn't the topic about long haul truckers and trucking companies?

Those are consumers.

If Diesel is $4.00/ Gallon, and the spot market is around 36 cents / gallon, then it is plausible for long haul trucking companies to realize a 10/1 savings

In my opinion, there is no way the economics will work out, but I hope you find a way to make it work.

To my knowledge, consumers don't use LIQUID natural gas.

I have done engineering/design/construction in both LNG and CNG facilities. If you are talking about LNG, refrigerating down to -260°F, that is more expensive equipment and requires more energy than the compression system.

Now you may argue that in practice, the ratio may be 9 to 1, or 8 to 1, but it is still a huge price differential, and well worth the effort in the long run.

I don't think you can economically achieve 3 to 1. I believe 2 to 1 still gives reason to use the fuel, in the long run.

Prices in my area are aroung $1.40/ GGE

You have LNG selling at $1.40 a gallon? Or do you mean a commercial natural gas price from the pipeline? Will you give the approximate area/city?

I believe that anything we Americans can do to cut the financial throat of the middle east is in the best interests of our nation.

I agree and Natural Gas as a transportation fuel helps get this done. But we need to set realistic expectations or people will abandon the concept because the measuring stick used calls it a failure when it really works, just not as well as an outrageous claim.

In reading back over the thread, trying to see if I missed something since the numbers seem so off, I find from you:

I'm shooting for a sell to the public price of $1.00/gallon for my own station. But for my own usage, i'm expecting the price to be around 50-60 cents per gallon. I'll find out soon how that's going to work out. My output pressure is going to be 3,600 #.

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Who's talking about consumers? Wasn't the topic about long haul truckers and trucking companies? They will be able to get price differentials over and above what an ordinary consumer will be able to manage. To my knowledge, consumers don't use LIQUID natural gas. They use COMPRESSED natural gas. This topic is NOT ABOUT consumers.

If Diesel is $4.00/ Gallon, and the spot market is around 36 cents / gallon, then it is plausible for long haul trucking companies to realize a 10/1 savings, (Optimistically) in fuel costs. (Under current market conditions.)

So are you talking about LNG or CNG with your price numbers?