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There Will Be War In The Middle East
The Economic Collapse ^ | 11/14/2012 | Michael

Posted on 11/14/2012 7:39:33 PM PST by pwatson

The military action that we are watching in the Middle East right now is just a preview of coming attractions. Tensions in the region are rising with each passing day, and all sides have been anticipating future conflicts and preparing for war for decades. It would be wonderful if everyone could sit down, forgive each other and agree to quit fighting, but that is not going to happen. Most of us that live in the western world have a very difficult time understanding the mindset of those immersed in these conflicts. In the Middle East, there are vendettas and grudges that go back literally thousands of years. Children are raised in schools where they are taught to bitterly hate their enemies from the time that they are first able to speak. As Americans, we have forgiven former enemies such as Germany and Japan and we just expect that everyone else should be able to forgive as well. But that is simply not the way that it works over there, and there is no long-term solution in the Middle East that is going to be acceptable to all sides. Right now, Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Syria and Iran are all preparing for war. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail in this current crisis, but that will only delay the inevitable. There will be war in the Middle East. Yes, politicians such as Barack Obama will do their best to broker more "peace agreements", but even the declaration of a "Palestinian state" will never stop the fighting. In fact, it would just set the stage for more war. I don't mean to sound pessimistic about the region, but the truth is that there will be more war until it is not possible to fight any longer. Any "peace plan" will just be a pause in the warfare.


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1 posted on 11/14/2012 7:39:35 PM PST by pwatson
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To: pwatson

Yes, it is coming. Fill up yer gas tanks, stock up on food and water if you can.


2 posted on 11/14/2012 7:41:17 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: pwatson

War is chronic in the M.E.

Its always there. The level just rises and drops.


3 posted on 11/14/2012 7:43:23 PM PST by PGR88
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To: pwatson

War has never stopped The Middle East


4 posted on 11/14/2012 7:44:04 PM PST by molson209
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To: pwatson

War is underway right now.


5 posted on 11/14/2012 7:44:27 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: pwatson

That’s a pretty safe prediction. About like predicting that Americans will consume a lot of turkey on Thanksgiving and then go shopping the next day.


6 posted on 11/14/2012 7:48:41 PM PST by RC one (Akin/Mourdock-2016)
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To: PGR88
“War is chronic in the M.E.

Its always there. The level just rises and drops.”

We would really worry if it got quiet there!

Our veterinarian was tank commander under Patton. He said they always worried when things were quiet; they were pretty sure things would then get bad!

7 posted on 11/14/2012 7:49:23 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: pwatson

Here are some of the most recent developments...

-Hamas has launched dozens of rockets into Israel since Saturday. At one point, the IDF estimated that at least 130 rockets had been fired from Gaza. Other estimates have put the number of rocket attacks much higher.

-In response, the IDF launched a military operation in Gaza on Wednesday. This involved the killing of the head of the military wing of Hamas, Ahmed Jabari, in an airstrike that was captured on video. You can see video of the airstrike right here.

-The IDF also attacked more than 20 underground rocket launchers in Gaza. The goal was to stop them from launching more rockets into Israel. Apparently those rocket launchers were capable of hitting targets 25 miles over the border into Israel.

-In response to the Wednesday attacks by the IDF, a substantial number of rockets were fired from Gaza toward Israel. The IDF says that the Iron Dome missile defense system was able to intercept 13 of the rockets.

-The IDF says that the military operations they conducted on Wednesday were part of a “major offensive” and that a ground attack may also be coming.

-”Operation Pillar of Defense” is the code name that has been given to this campaign.

-The IDF is not taking any options off the table. The following is from a message posted on the IDF Twitter account...

“All options are on the table. If necessary, the IDF is ready to initiate a ground operation in Gaza.”
-In particular, the IDF is being very open about the fact that top Hamas leaders will be targeted. The following is from another message posted on the IDF Twitter account...

“We recommend that no Hamas operatives, whether low level or senior leaders, show their faces above ground in the days ahead.”
-The U.S. State Department has denounced Hamas for the rocket attacks against Israel and is saying that Israel has the right to self-defense.

-The military wing of Hamas says that Israel “has opened the gates of hell.”

-One top Hamas official, Khalil al-Haya, is very clear about what his goal is...

“The battle between us and the occupation is open and it will end only with the liberation of Palestine and Jerusalem”
-Islamic Jihad has released a statement that is very critical of the IDF attack on Wednesday...

“Israel has declared war on Gaza and they will bear the responsibility for the consequences.”
In Egypt, the head of the most important political party is warning that Egypt may have to get involved if the fighting continues. The following is from a Breitbart report...

Today, Egypt’s Freedom and Justice Party, the political wing of the Muslim Brotherhood – a party formerly headed by current President Mohammed Morsi – announced that Egypt would get involved if Israel continued to kill terrorists in the Gaza Strip. Such Israeli action, said the party, would prompt “swift Arab and international action to stop the massacres.” The party also warned that Israel “must take into account the changes in the Arab region and especially Egypt … [Egypt] will not allow the Palestinians to be subjected to Israeli aggression, as in the past.”
-Things also continue to get more tense with Syria. Israel has fired tank shells into Syria twice since Sunday. They did this in response to Syrian shells which struck the Golan Heights. This marked the first time that Israel had fired tank shells into Syria since the Yom Kippur War in 1973.

-Syrian rebels are receiving a massive influx of arms and assistance. The following is from a recent article in the Washington Post...

Syrian rebels battling the regime of President Bashar al-Assad have begun receiving significantly more and better weapons in recent weeks, an effort paid for by Persian Gulf nations and coordinated in part by the United States, according to opposition activists and U.S. and foreign officials.

Obama administration officials emphasized that the United States is neither supplying nor funding the lethal material, which includes antitank weaponry. Instead, they said, the administration has expanded contacts with opposition military forces to provide the gulf nations with assessments of rebel credibility and command-and-control infrastructure.
-It is being reported that UK troops may soon be deployed to areas near the border with Syria.

-NATO has announced that it is prepared to defend Turkey if necessary...

NATO will defend alliance member Turkey, which struck back after mortar rounds fired from Syria landed inside its border, the alliance’s Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said at a meeting in Prague on Monday.

“NATO as an organization will do what it takes to protect and defend Turkey, our ally. We have more plans in place to make sure that we can protect and defend Turkey and hopefully that way also deter so that attacks on Turkey will not take place,” he said.
Once again, hopefully all of this will settle down in a few days.

But it is never easy to predict what is going to happen next in the Middle East. There is so much hate and anger and things could literally explode over there at any time.

In the months and years to come, I expect the Middle East to become a major issue for the global economy and a major political issue inside the United States.

When war does erupt in the Middle East, it is going to dramatically affect the price of oil, and there will also be a tremendous amount of debate about whether the U.S. military should intervene or not.

Let us hope for peace, but let us also be very realistic about the situation over there. Our world is becoming more unstable with each passing day, and the times that are coming are going to be very challenging.


8 posted on 11/14/2012 7:49:34 PM PST by pwatson
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To: BenLurkin

“it is written”..


9 posted on 11/14/2012 7:50:26 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: pwatson
what an idiot....bammey trying to bring peace?....oh, yeah, that's right...he did "earn" that Nobel Peace Prize now didn't he....LOL...

the bamster is trying to incite violence and would like nothing better than Israel to be massacred...

10 posted on 11/14/2012 7:51:13 PM PST by cherry
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To: pwatson
There Will Be War In The Middle East

This just in. The Pope is Catholic!!

11 posted on 11/14/2012 7:51:31 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: F15Eagle

The war started in 1948. What are referred to as wars since that time were actually battles; if not, it would be over and not be a continuous repetitious cycle.


12 posted on 11/14/2012 7:53:16 PM PST by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: pwatson

In 1977 I worked at a hotel in Crystal City, that’s just across the the Potomac River from D.C. There was a young guy working the front desk that came from Jordan. He was always pleasant and friendly. One day I happened to make a remark about something that was happening at the time between Israel and whoever was shooting at them. I swear, you could see the rage rise up his face as he literally spat venom and hate towards Israel and Jews in general. That was my first experience with anything like that. I was totally flabbergasted by his transformation. I’ll never forget it. They won’t quit over there till either one side or the other is wiped out.


13 posted on 11/14/2012 7:55:36 PM PST by W.Lee ("RID THE WORLD OF THOSE SAVAGES!”)
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To: F15Eagle

It will start in the Middle East, then they will come for us, and the Democrats will help them in every way they can not realizing that THEY will then become the slaves of the Muslims when and if they can destroy the American Spirit.


14 posted on 11/14/2012 7:59:21 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: W.Lee

There are 2 very true old sayings when it comes to the middle east...

Golda Meir was quoted as saying that “there will never be peace until the arabs love their children more than the hate the Jews.”

The other saying is, “If the arab nations disarm, there will be peace in the middle east. If the Israelis disarm, there will be no Jews or Israel in the middle east.”

These 2 sayings pretty much say it all.

Mark


15 posted on 11/14/2012 8:08:50 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: pwatson

HUH? When has there NOT been “war” in the Middle East?


16 posted on 11/14/2012 8:10:18 PM PST by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: W.Lee

It’s the same with the Pakistanis and their attitude toward India over Kashmir.


17 posted on 11/14/2012 8:17:33 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ( "I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.")
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To: pwatson

“Obama administration officials emphasized that the United States is neither supplying nor funding the lethal material, which includes antitank weaponry. “

Huh? I was under the impression that US consulate people in Benghazi may have been involved in running weapons to Syrian rebels via Turkey. This seems to conflict with the above. Any opinion on this?


18 posted on 11/14/2012 8:41:53 PM PST by haroldeveryman
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To: pwatson

To me, it just looks like Israel acting to preserve their existence. Military action, yes. Full blown war? No, not at this time.


19 posted on 11/14/2012 9:00:16 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: pwatson

Anyone who wants to know how it ends just needs to read Revelation.


20 posted on 11/14/2012 9:47:09 PM PST by Smittie
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To: pwatson

You only have to believe the Bible to know this.


21 posted on 11/14/2012 9:59:13 PM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: W.Lee

Had the same experience with a beautiful young lady from Yemen.


22 posted on 11/14/2012 10:02:40 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: pwatson

At the dawn of recorded history, the Middle East was at war.


23 posted on 11/14/2012 10:09:39 PM PST by firebrand
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To: inpajamas

The War started around 622 A.D.


24 posted on 11/14/2012 10:10:26 PM PST by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Smittie

The war will be fought until one side wins and the other side loses. When I mean win—they must consume and destroy the other side until there is no one left to wage war. It is a cold and terrible pronouncement but—I fear— True. No treaty will do—only a funeral. The Arabs must be pushed into the sea and killed—everyone, or the same will happen to the Jews. Not one will be left alive. The conflict will end only in a Holocaust for one side or the other. If I was an Israeli I would move to the USA as quickly as possible. I believe the Arabs have the edge—their religious fanaticism will win the day for them if it takes another 100 years.


25 posted on 11/14/2012 10:51:16 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Israel will use Nukes in the end, everyone knows it!


26 posted on 11/14/2012 10:58:36 PM PST by mdmathis6 ("Barry" Xmas to all and have a rapaciously taxable New Year!)
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To: haroldeveryman

Whenever an Obama Administration Official speaks, just negate what they say to discover the truth.


27 posted on 11/14/2012 11:07:10 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: F15Eagle

Luke 22:36.


28 posted on 11/15/2012 12:38:20 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: BenLurkin

Luke 22:36. The S has HTF.


29 posted on 11/15/2012 12:40:09 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: pwatson
"There Will Be War In The Middle East..."

There Will Be IS A War In The Middle East!

Geesh isn't this guy paying attention? Syria and Israel are bombing and shooting missiles at each other. People are dying. Its a war.

30 posted on 11/15/2012 12:42:31 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: pwatson

What a risky prediction. Not.


31 posted on 11/15/2012 12:51:54 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: pwatson

What do you mean, “will”?


32 posted on 11/15/2012 1:14:44 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: firebrand

“..dawn of recorded history, the Middle East was at war...”

Cain and Abel. It is a result of original sin (man’s fallen nature) and the scenario repeats in all conflicts down through history. This is precisely why a socialist atheist human U(dys)topia will not succeed. Humans can individually win over their own moral shortcomings by the use of their own free willpower - the collective can’t do it because it is impossible.


33 posted on 11/15/2012 3:27:02 AM PST by stonehouse01 (Equal rights for unborn women)
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To: PGR88
War is chronic in the M.E. Its always there. The level just rises and drops.

The difference is that this time there is a better chance that the scope would overflow to a much broader area...

34 posted on 11/15/2012 4:30:21 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

You are forgetting the great “peacemaker” who will come along and make promises and be hailed as a saint, only to break his promises a few years later. If you believe Bible prophecy, that is.


35 posted on 11/15/2012 4:56:37 AM PST by firebrand
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36 posted on 11/15/2012 5:01:32 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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37 posted on 11/15/2012 5:02:21 AM PST by SJackson (none of this suggests there are hostile feelings for the US in Egypt, Victoria Nuland, State Dept)
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To: F15Eagle

And get a good radiation detector, if nuclear weapons are used the Fallout could reach us. Use the detectors to test the food and drink you consume. There was a run on all types in Japan and many consumed contaminated products.


38 posted on 11/15/2012 5:17:45 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: pwatson; All

Looks like the begining of the “end of the age” with this new “military flare-up” in the Middle East.


39 posted on 11/15/2012 5:22:28 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: firebrand

This is the “anti-christ” of the “greatest book of all time.”


40 posted on 11/15/2012 5:24:52 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: trebb

AMEN to that.

Got to remember folks, the Middle East has become in the last few years more and more like a dry tinder box ready to “burst into flames”.


41 posted on 11/15/2012 5:26:38 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: pwatson
Now having been to the several arab countries, Eygpt and Saudi, they are filled with uneducated, very lazy people. They have lived a life of leasure, where they hire the Paki’s to do their work. Unless they can hire an army, they can’t win even though they may be religous lunitics. They have no intellectual, techincal, or moral advantage
42 posted on 11/15/2012 5:55:49 AM PST by Quick Shot
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To: firebrand

I don’t know how anyone could not believe if you read the prophesies and then look at what is happening.


43 posted on 11/15/2012 7:16:09 AM PST by Smittie
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To: SJackson

Victoria Nuland is a terrible liar. You can see her face stiffen up before she sips water and then tells the whopper. Jay Carney and Robert Gibbs do it with a smirk and a laugh. And they are just as obvious. Look at Nuland’s eyes.


44 posted on 11/15/2012 7:29:04 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: pwatson
Time for the Israelis to stop this foolishness.

They need to take over completely the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip. Then they need to expel the Palestinians by sending all of them into Egypt. Let that idiot Morsi deal with them.

45 posted on 11/15/2012 7:53:46 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: pwatson
Why not carpet bomb and shell Gaza into oblivion? Tell the Palestinians they'll stop dying when they stop killing Israelis. If they Palis won't stop, they'll just have to die and meet the 72 virgins.
46 posted on 11/15/2012 12:15:52 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: SJackson
If a bomb drops on Israel; and Obama does not hear it; does it make a sound?
47 posted on 11/15/2012 1:13:04 PM PST by cricket
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To: W.Lee

I believe it re the Jordanian guy you met. But remember that in Israel they are not driven by hatred. THEY WANT ONLY TO SURVIVE AND LIVE IN FREEDOM. This is not a fight between equals. Israel wants to prevent their own death, which makes their tactics more “final.” They have no goal to annihilate anyone who doesn’t wish them harm.


48 posted on 11/15/2012 1:14:52 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: pwatson

“Right now, Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, Syria and Iran are all preparing for war. “

Right, they are all the same.

WARNING - Moral equivalency in this thread


49 posted on 11/16/2012 7:55:58 AM PST by dervish (Psalm 109:8)
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To: pwatson

It looks like the IDF will enter Gaza within the next few days. It is the only realistic way to stop the Islamic death cultists of Hamas and Islamic Jihad (both supported and armed by Iran) from rocketing deeper and deeper areas of Israel.


50 posted on 11/17/2012 7:28:29 PM PST by M. Espinola
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