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Election 2012 Marks the End of Evangelical Dominance in Politics
The Atlantic ^ | 11/13/2012 | Jonathan Merritt

Posted on 11/16/2012 4:57:28 AM PST by darrellmaurina

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To: Clemenza

“Please show me a heavily Catholic state, city, or congressional district that votes regularly Republican. (Crickets).”

Louisiana. In 2008, Catholcs voted 70% for McCain in La. Can’t find any exit polling for Catholics in any other states that normally go republican. In fact, I can only find exit polling for Catholics in two 2008 ‘red’ states, La and Az (Az was tie as far as I can find).

Freegards


61 posted on 11/18/2012 5:00:30 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Clemenza

“Your lovely fatso white working class gave Obama Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.”

Obama lost the Catholic vote in Ohio and Pa last time, he won it in Wisconsin and Michigan. The only thing I have seen this time was Obama losing the Catholic vote in Ohio by nine points this time, McCain won it by 5 last time.

Freegards


62 posted on 11/18/2012 5:11:00 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: ansel12

How old are you, eight or nine? Seems like you have a problem reading or understanding what you read. LOL.


63 posted on 11/18/2012 9:25:52 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Ransomed; Clemenza

“Your lovely fatso white working class gave Obama Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.”

Romney won among Wisconsin and Michigan Catholics 56%/55% respectively.

Freegards


64 posted on 11/19/2012 6:21:47 AM PST by Ransomed
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To: NKP_Vet

Read this, and quit attacking the pro-life vote and defending the pro-abortion vote.

Let us all pray to God, that everyone votes like America’s second largest denomination, the Southern Baptists, for life and conservatism at 80% numbers.

Let us all pray to God that people don’t vote like the pro-abortion voting Catholics, the democrat voting block.

You need to stop defending the pro-abortion vote and liberalism. The Catholic vote is a serious problem for pro-lifers, help us fight immigration.


65 posted on 11/19/2012 11:51:23 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

Son I can tell you are searching for the truth. God loves “Southern Baptists” too. Come on in the water’s fine.

I was Southern Baptist for 58 years of my life, and you know when people ask m e what the difference is between Catholic and Baptist, I can only tell them obvious things. Saints, Hail Mary, Rosary. It seems as though I have forgotten everything I knew about the Baptist faith. I have been so devoted to Catholicism that I don’t really pay much mind to other religions anymore. Anyone want to give me some tips on what I should tell them? When they ask my why I converted, I tell them “I saw the light”

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in our day of battle; protect us against the deceit and wickedness
of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And you, O prince of the heavenly host, by the power
of God banish into hell Satan and all of the evil spirits who roam through the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.


66 posted on 11/19/2012 4:55:58 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Son, shouldn’t you post that to someone who is a Southern Baptist?

I just pray to God that Catholics quit voting democrat and start voting like Southern Baptists, I would think that all conservatives do that.

The Catholic vote is a killer for the pro-life movement.


67 posted on 11/19/2012 5:05:20 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

“The Catholic vote is a killer for the pro-life movement”

If you think more southern baptists voted pro-life than Catholics I have some good ocean front property to sell you in Arizona. I pray to God that anyone that calls themselves Christian quits voting democrat. I also pray to God that Protestants quit voting for Obama. Or do you think all those black votes he received were from black Catholics? Catholics, FAR AND AWAY made their voice heard for the unborn. And the numbers dwarfs all other religions groups. Not even close. No sense to discuss this any longer. You know the facts as well as I do. This is my last word on the subject. God bless you my friend.


68 posted on 11/19/2012 6:40:35 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

I don’t know what you have against the Southern Baptist denomination, or any other pro-life voting block, but in 2008, we know that 80% of the Southern Baptists voted pro-life republican, while only 45% of Catholics did.

In fact the entire spectrum of non-Catholic Christians, when lumped together under “Protestant” and putting in blacks, Hispanics, Episcopalians and the whole entire category of Christian, but not Catholics, still voted pro-life by 54%.


69 posted on 11/19/2012 7:46:22 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

45% of pro-life voting Catholics is still more than probably all protestants combined. To hell with percentages. We all know Obama got 93% of black votes, and every one of them are votes to kill babies. The welfare hispanics should not even be included in a “catholic” discussion when talking about pro-life because they went for Obama - - therefore voting pro-death. Give me some raw numbers for a change. I know this. White Church going Catholics gave Romney 59% of their vote. Disregard hypocrites, whether protestants or catholics, when talking about the pro-life vote.

1/4 of the population of the US is Catholic. There is no such thing as a pro-life “voting block’. Not Catholic, not protestant, not any faith. If you a regular church goer you tend to vote for pro-life candidates. The Episcopal Church takes no stance on abortion. They could care less if their members vote pro-death. As a matter of fact the only church that says it is a mortal sin to vote for a pro-death candidate is the Catholic Church, which by the way is the only organized Christian Church in the United States, that actually has an official doctrine that Catholics are to live by, and if you can’t live by them, get out of the faith, it’s that simple. The Catholic Church does not form it’s doctrine by a show of hands like the majority of protestant faiths do. Their doctrine comes straight from the Bible and it will never change.


70 posted on 11/19/2012 8:18:48 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
50% of that 1/4 Catholic voted FOR Obama. I expect to live long enough to have the majority voting to make Teddy Kennedy a saint for his pursuit of universal health care and forcing US non-catholics to abide by the Church's doctrine of illegal immigration.
71 posted on 11/19/2012 8:38:28 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: NKP_Vet

Our second largest denomination, the Southern Baptists are delivering about an 80% pro-life vote, our largest denomination, the Romney Catholics, give us on average well below 50%.

We know that whites are leaving Catholicism, and that some, who stay with Catholicism have started voting republican, but it is too little, too late, the Catholic vote has almost always been democrat, and it will remain so in the future, this is as good as it gets with Catholic voters, and this good news is over, as immigration brings the Catholic vote back to normal.

It is conceivable that the Catholics will never vote pro-life again in a presidential election, but at most, we can hope for one or two more such anomalies.

I had predicted that republicans would win 54% of the Catholic vote this time, I was sorely mistaken, we didn’t even come close.


72 posted on 11/19/2012 8:41:34 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

You sound like a broken record. So let me say it one more time. If only 10% of Catholics voted pro-life, it would still more pro-life votes than all the southern baptists if every one of them voted 100%!! A grade school kid can understand that, but for some reason you can’t.

I do wish somebody else would jump into this discussion. But then again, I don’t think it would do any good. Someone gives you facts and you just ignore them. You remind of Obama. I guess if you repeat something enough you can convince yourself of it.

“Before the Roe v. Wade decision, the right-to-life movement in the U.S. consisted of lawyers, politicians, and doctors, almost all of whom were Catholic. The only coordinated opposition to abortion during the early 1970s came from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Family Life Bureau, also a Catholic organization. Mobilization of a wide-scale pro-life movement among Catholics began quickly after the Roe v. Wade decision with the creation of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC). The NRLC also organized non-Catholics, eventually becoming the largest pro-life organization in the United States. Connie Paige has been quoted as having said that, “[t]he Roman Catholic Church created the right-to-life movement. Without the church, the movement would not exist as such today.”[14]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_pro-life_movement


73 posted on 11/19/2012 9:35:44 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

I sound like a broken record, because you can’t change the facts, members of the Catholic denomination, are majority, pro-abortion, pro-democrat voters, Southern Baptists, are about 80% pro-life voters, the difference that matters is how they vote, now how many members each denomination has.

If Catholics are more numerous, then all the more deadly it is that they the majority of them vote for the abortion party.

We need to fix that.


74 posted on 11/19/2012 9:40:37 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

The only thing that needs to be fixed is your math skills.
If 10% of Catholics voted for Romney, that’s still millions and millions of MORE PRO-LIFE VOTES than southern baptists gave him, due in part because of their sitting on their asses and not voting for a morman.

The Catholic Church FOUNDED the Pro-life Movement, while southern baptists and the vast majority of protestants (by the way what are they still PROTESTING 500 years later) agreed with Roe w. Wade that is was fine to murder the unborn.


75 posted on 11/22/2012 6:50:46 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: ansel12

The only thing that needs to be fixed is your math skills.
If 10% of Catholics voted for Romney, that’s still millions and millions of MORE PRO-LIFE VOTES than southern baptists gave him, due in part because of their sitting on their asses and not voting for a morman.

The Catholic Church FOUNDED the Pro-life Movement, while southern baptists and the vast majority of protestants (by the way what are they still PROTESTING 500 years later) agreed with Roe w. Wade that is was fine to murder the unborn.


76 posted on 11/22/2012 6:50:46 AM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

There is some bigoted madness driving you, to keep going after the Americans who are the strongest pro-life voting group in America, who vote pro-life by 80% or more, because you don’t like which Christian denomination they attend is just bigotry, not pro-life politics.

To find imaginative ways to defend and promote, to celebrate the pro-abortion voting Catholic denomination’s vote is the same thing, religious bigotry, it is not pro-life nor dealing with the politics of life and death as it varies from church to church.

Racism and religious bigotry seem to be driving you, not abortion and a groups vote for, or against it.

I think you want to go to the religion page and argue theology with people, because ending abortion doesn’t interest you.


77 posted on 11/22/2012 9:23:26 AM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: ansel12

No doubt in my mind you are a troll who voted for Obama.
You know absolutely nothing about what it means to be pro-life. Don’t bother me any more with your ignorance.


78 posted on 11/22/2012 4:13:02 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Evangelicals voted for Romney by 79%, Southern Baptists by probably 80 to 83%.

Catholics voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012.

I don’t know how you can be attacking the pro-life voters with such anger, and hostility.


79 posted on 11/22/2012 6:41:32 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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