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Spielberg's Lincoln Movie
Personal writing | November 16, 2012 | Garland Favorito

Posted on 11/16/2012 7:27:33 AM PST by BobNative

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1 posted on 11/16/2012 7:27:34 AM PST by BobNative
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To: BobNative

Presidents from Illinois seem to suck.


2 posted on 11/16/2012 7:31:19 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

Including Reagan?


3 posted on 11/16/2012 7:41:03 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: BobNative

Lincoln worship annoys me to no end!

the man was a monster who deserved far worse than he got.


4 posted on 11/16/2012 7:45:03 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: CrazyIvan
Including Reagan?
You mean the one who raised taxes a few times AND signed an Amnesty bill?
5 posted on 11/16/2012 7:48:58 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: BobNative

Just about every word except “and” and “the” in this so-called “review” is false, bad history, bad interpretation of historical facts, and otherwise bogus.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 7:53:12 AM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: BobNative
"The script also tends to deceive the audience into believing that slavery was the major cause of the war"

I'm sorry, but anyone that cannot recognize that slavery was the only reason for the civil war is simply deluding themselves.

Yes, yes, state's rights, industrial tarriffs, property rights, the 10th amandment, etc etc; but every single arguement resolved down to slavery and the economics built upon it.

It was only the war that ended the evil of slavery and it was Linclon that made certain that slavery was ended.

Thank God for Abraham Lincoln.

7 posted on 11/16/2012 7:54:04 AM PST by Pietro
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Regarding “causes of the war”, there was plenty of hypocrisy on both sides. Slavery was certainly a major factor as stated in a number of the sothern states own declarations.

Moreover, there was political support in the south to forcibly annex places like Cuba in odrer to get more pro-slavery senators. Forcible annexation and allowance of secession seem to be mutually exclusive to me.

That said, I believe that the individual states retained enough sovereignty to secede, regardless of the consistency or value of their underlying reasons. This should have been addressed in the original Constitution.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 7:54:13 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: oh8eleven

True. I’d still trade Bammy for him in a hearbeat.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 7:56:29 AM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: BobNative

Disingenuous.
South Carolinas proclamation of secession clearly stated the reason to be the constitutional right to slavery. Article IV. And specifically the Northern states disinclination to enforce it.
The South ultimately fought because of slavery, and that alone.
Anything else is spinning afterwards.
Why the North fought is another matter.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 7:56:36 AM PST by buwaya
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To: BobNative

Disingenuous.
South Carolinas proclamation of secession clearly stated the reason to be the constitutional right to slavery. Article IV. And specifically the Northern states disinclination to enforce it.
The South ultimately fought because of slavery, and that alone.
Anything else is spinning afterwards.
Why the North fought is another matter.


11 posted on 11/16/2012 7:56:41 AM PST by buwaya
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To: TexasFreeper2009; windcliff; stylecouncilor

I’m torn by what I believe was good in Lincoln, and my admiration for the Southern spirit of independence.


12 posted on 11/16/2012 7:59:18 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Pietro

Didn’t South Carolina explicitly state they were seceding from the union because of slavery?


13 posted on 11/16/2012 8:05:17 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: onedoug

Republicans keep bragging about being the party of Lincoln. Well Lincoln was the LIBERAL of his time, the Democrats were the Conservatives. Why do you think the south held on to the Democrats until the 70’s? The democrats finally got SO liberal the old blue dogs couldn’t take it any more.


14 posted on 11/16/2012 8:05:50 AM PST by conservaterian (NOW can we have a conservative candidate?????)
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To: BobNative
bttt...author addresses some interesting points.
Myopic Lincoln-worship crowd won't like.
15 posted on 11/16/2012 8:05:54 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: onedoug

If you are torn between the principles of a Federal Gov’t and States’ rights you are a true American. That’s what the US is all about!


16 posted on 11/16/2012 8:06:50 AM PST by what's up
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To: LS
Just about every word except “and” and “the” in this so-called “review” is false...and otherwise bogus.

So Lincoln never represented Robert Matson?

17 posted on 11/16/2012 8:07:50 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama Lied, Stevens died.)
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To: BobNative
..two of my great-grandfathers fought for the Confederacy. One was a POW. I have deep southern roots and love the South.

Having said that I think true history points to Lincoln as being the greatest president in our history...

18 posted on 11/16/2012 8:13:18 AM PST by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Pietro

You realize the exact same argument would have been made for King George had England won the revolution right?.

I don’t deny that slavery was the main reason behind secession but to claim men can be forced into a “Union” under threat of death or imprisonment? That’s an argument of oppression. Why not support extortion while you’re at it?


19 posted on 11/16/2012 8:13:30 AM PST by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: DwFry
so would have preferred slavery remained in place.

You are then, in fact, pro-slavery.

Feel free to dress that up w/ whatever justifications make you feel better.

20 posted on 11/16/2012 8:18:35 AM PST by Pietro
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