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To: SargeK

It rather interesting to watch the response to “one of” Iraq leaders’s comments. Does everyone agree with him, or is he shooting off his mouth like Barney Frank does?

Then you look at Europe itself, totally in the tank for the Palestinians. Whose men died to defend it?

Our own president, why he’s holding our energy product hostage too. He hates Israel, and loves the Islamic nations of the Middle-East, Africa, and Asia. How many died so he could be our ‘leader’?

Iraq has it’s problems. So does Europe. So do we.


15 posted on 11/16/2012 12:19:32 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and 48 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: DoughtyOne

You actually stopped to think before you posted. Stop being so blasted rational.


28 posted on 11/16/2012 12:35:06 PM PST by wideawake
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To: DoughtyOne; wideawake

One sees precious little evidence that this “gentleman’s” views are much at variance with the rest of his government or for that matter the vast majority of the population of this benighted region.

I cannot agree with your drawing an equivalence between Europe post-WWII and the modern middle east. For one, we occupied Europe for fifty years. In a sense, we still do. Europe responded to the Marshall Plan and evolved. Maybe only because of total war, and they were finally exhausted of war and susceptible to change. Maybe the cushy welfare state we financed for them kept them fat and content. Anyway, Western Europe has avoided butchering one another for over half a century. Although, I think that is backsliding as we watch. Tribalism is on the rise in Europe as the welfare state collapses and the vestigial cultural differences are again emerging. Without an occupying power it will be interesting to see where this leads.

As for our own illustrious Premier (it seems fitting to use an honorific compatible with his political orientation) - I believe my brief comment on his opposition to the development of domestic sources of petroleum is sufficient.


41 posted on 11/16/2012 1:27:41 PM PST by SargeK
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To: DoughtyOne
Then you look at Europe itself, totally in the tank for the Palestinians. Whose men died to defend it?

Firstly, Western Europe is not all of Europe. The nations that have supported the Palestinians now are Western European, not Central Europe

Secondly, the men who died to defend it were in terms of numbers firstly European, then Russian then American. WWII was won due to American military supplies to the USSR and to Britain and then due to the Soviets breaking the back of the Germans.

Only Western Europe was liberated at the end of WWII -- for central Europeans the war ended in 1989...

61 posted on 11/16/2012 10:39:03 PM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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