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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

RE: Nowhere nearly as disastrously as “unskewedpolls.com” did.

Unskewed Polls SKEWED it to an R+ advantage. As did Gallup.

Looking at the results, if just a little more Republicans actually went and voted Republican, Romney would have won.

Just 333,000 VOTES IN 4 SWING STATES WOULD HAVE GIVEN ROMNEY THE PRESIDENCY

From Breitbart:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/11/333-000-Votes-in-4-Swing-States-Would-Have-Given-Romney-the-Presidency

Despite losing the popular vote 51% to 48%—not a landslide for Obama by any means, but on the other hand not the “neck and neck” outcome many predicted—Mitt Romney would be President today if he had secured 333,908 more votes in four key swing states.

The final electoral college count gave President Obama a wide 332 to 206 margin over Romney. 270 electoral college votes are needed to win the Presidency.

Romney lost New Hampshire’s 4 electoral college votes by a margin of 40,659. Obama won with 368,529 to Romney’s 327,870.

Romney lost Florida’s 29 electoral college votes by a margin of 73,858. Obama won with 4,236,032 to Romney’s 4,162,174.

Romney lost Ohio’s 18 electoral college votes by a margin of 103,481. Obama won with 2,697,260 to Romney’s 2,593,779
Romney lost Virginia’s 13 electoral college votes by a margin of 115,910. Obama won with 1,905,528 to Romney’s 1,789,618.

Add the 64 electoral college votes from this switch of 333,908 votes in these four key states to Romney’s 206, remove them from Obama’s 332, and Romney defeats Obama 270 to 268.

Overall, voter turnout was down, from 131 million in 2008 to 122 million in 2012. Obama won 7.6 million fewer votes than he did in 2008, and Romney won 1.3 million fewer than McCain in 2008.

Romney improved his vote total’s over McCain’s by the slightest amount in three of these four states, but in Ohio, he actually had 81,000 fewer votes than McCain in 2008.
What do these facts tell us?

Both parties lost support of the population in the four years between 2008 and 2012. While Obama lost more support, he started with more, and he was able to hang on to enough of his base to overcome Romney’s inability to keep and expand his base.


10 posted on 11/19/2012 7:39:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I THINK ROMNEY *DID* WIN

I THINK THIS ELECTIN WAS STOLEN!!!!!!!!!!!1

I have never seen people so motivated to go vote, and I have never seen lines this big when I voted.

I saw someone PURPOSELY cause a paper jam in the pathetic scanners they had in my precinct- i think they manufactured votes for Obama, but also DELETED votes for Romney

DELETING votes is way more difficult to prove.


11 posted on 11/19/2012 7:41:58 AM PST by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Unskewed Polls SKEWED it to an R+ advantage.

... which, by your own stated figures, was not reflected in electoral reality.

The people cruelly gulled by "unskewedpolls.com" were the same ones guilty of uncritically swallowing Dick Morris' out-and-out crap, whole.

12 posted on 11/19/2012 7:42:39 AM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
I think what this is really telling us is there are more of "them" voting than "us."

The "likely voter" is catching up with the registered voter which is further left with "adults" even further left from there in polling.

At the national level, this is bad news for anyone not a Democrat ally. For now it's certain states that are slipping away but the electoral map may be on the verge of making it "impossible" for a Republican to win the White House.

Sure Obama's not on the ballot in 2016 and even a "successful" presidency is no guarantee the White House will stay in the hands of the same party following a two term incumbent. But it's something we should be conscious of and trying to build electoral options over these next four years.

18 posted on 11/19/2012 8:44:03 AM PST by newzjunkey (Still waiting for Akin defenders to come clean and apologize... Romney 2016?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Votes are still coming in.

As of this morning 124.6 million votes have been counted. Obama is currently down over 6 million from 2008 and Romney is down .5 million from what McCain received.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html


23 posted on 11/19/2012 10:06:25 AM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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