What Price 'Fairness'?

Townhall.com ^ | November 20, 2012 | Mona Charen

[A_perfect_lady]

I tell you what. If I were a rich business owner right now, I’d shut it down, sell it off, give it all to a no-kill animal shelter and live in a hut like the Unibomber rather than hand it over to the government of this country.

[1010RD]

Mona Charen is falling for the majority rules fallacy. That’s not how our government works, Mona. You beltway dummy.

[nitzy]

Obamacare will provide federal subsidies to those at 400% of the poverty level. For a family of four, that means families with household incomes approaching $90,000 per year will receive subsidies. Congratulations, you are now "poor".

This statement is not accurate.

An accurate statement would be ..."Obamacare will provide federal subsidies to SOME OF those at 400% of the poverty level.

There will be SOME people who contact their social worker, immigration adviser or local ACORN office and request these benefits. Same thing with food stamps, WIC, section 8 housing, medicaid, etc...Then there will be OTHER people who may be eligible but don't seek the benefit.

I have been thinking lately, what would be the consequences if everyone who was technically eligible, got the benefits?

We know already that the system is unsustainable. If we were to exaggerate the faults of the system by having everyone eligible "draining the teat", the system would fail far sooner than it would otherwise.

[1010RD]

Throw in licensing, restrictive work regulations and illegal immigrants and you’ve got the perfect policy for a permanent urban underclass.

Welcome to the late Roman Empire 21st century style.

[1010RD]

Great comment.

[lentulusgracchus]

(Article)
As a matter of political strategy -- not to say survival -- Republicans will have to agree to raise taxes on those defined as rich. It's more than just the exit poll on support for tax increases. Republicans must also contend with the Pew poll that asked who would be more to blame if a fiscal cliff deal were not reached.

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Meh, another neocon says she likes new taxes.

Well, of course she does. Atlantic Seaboard social liberals (like neocons are) always like higher taxes. Infrastructural projects, social welfare b.s., whatever. As long as you can still get good knishes at 2 a.m.

Trouble is, Obama and his orcs are going to keep coming back until they've got it all.

[lentulusgracchus]

No taxes. No deal. In fact, no taxes on anything the House doesn't like. This is a war. If you have no position, you have no base on which to fight and eventually win.

Bump. This is a straight-up staring contest. Republicans must not blink, or they open the door to 50-60% taxation levels on everybody -- once they give up the principle Obama is trying to get them to give up.