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To: Scooter100

Fiscal conservatism ultimately requires in the population a sense discipline and responsibility.

The idea that s nation can ignore issues of morality and character and remain fiscally conservative is a pipe dream. The two always have to go together.

The Libertarians’ failure to understand this is why their advocated solution of the Libertarian state is as impracticable as the socialist/communist utopia.


34 posted on 11/20/2012 9:31:23 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: Truthsearcher

The two do have to go together intellectually, but there is a very salient point about the role of secular government in its ability to force morality and character. That is the question. About the best government can do is to allow for freedom, which by definition, means property rights and law and order.


39 posted on 11/20/2012 9:42:48 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright ("WTF?: How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost....Again")
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To: Truthsearcher
The Libertarians’ failure to understand this is why their advocated solution of the Libertarian state is as impracticable as the socialist/communist utopia.

The original intent of the Constitution was that the national government was supposed to be the "government of the States", and not be involved in the day-to-day affairs of individual citizens. This produces a national government that is, at least cosmetically "libertarian".

If that's not acceptable to social conservatives, then they've effectively set themselves against anyone arguing for compliance with the original intent of the Constitution. I don't see how that's going to ever work for a "Constitution" party, unless it's just going to become a label, calculated to create a perception, rather than an actual statement of purpose.

40 posted on 11/20/2012 9:45:03 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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