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To: Kenny Bunk
Obama retook the WH on the basis of 500,000 votes in 5 key swing states.

This is a paltry number easily achieved by well-managed fraud.

Sorry, but the truth is Obama beat Romney by approximately 4 million votes nationally. Trying to claim that voter fraud caused us to lose the election is nonsense. Obama got about 3% more of the popular vote than Mitt did. We lost. Period. It would actually be a whole lot more suspicious if Mitt had managed to win those swing states while losing the popular vote by such a margin. Blaming our loss on vote fraud is just refusing to face the truth. The country is changing demographically, socially and on how it views government - and not for the better. We are going to have to face up to that and figure out a serious path forward. Blaming conspiracy theories for our loss gets us nowhere.

57 posted on 11/20/2012 12:55:57 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969; Kenny Bunk

>> “Sorry, but the truth is Obama beat Romney...” <<

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Sorry Longblow, but the data for the House elections proves you completely wrong.

Romney had to have beaten Obama by several million votes or the split in the house votes wouldn’t make any sense. Also the State races show the same tilt for the GOP, both in the legislatures, and the gubernatorial races. Romney had huge coat tails in all of those races that the fraudsters couldn’t cover up.

The electronic fraud is the fact of the entire election, and the GOPe trying to cover for it is shameful, just like your duplicitousness.


60 posted on 11/20/2012 1:03:56 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Longbow1969
Sorry, but the truth is Obama beat Romney by approximately 4 million votes nationally.

Electorial votes are what win, and 500,000 votes in key areas are all that was required.

66 posted on 11/20/2012 1:10:27 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Longbow1969

And Obama got millions less votes than 2008, while the GOP couldn’t turn out any more voters than McCain got. The odds of that being cheating would seem remote.


68 posted on 11/20/2012 1:15:17 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Longbow1969
Trying to claim that voter fraud caused us to lose the election is nonsense

Due to widespread voter fraud that favored the Democrats in the "swing states," which has been incontrovertibly demonstrated, neither you nor I can claim that the election was legitimately won, or lost, by anyone.

And that, my FRiend, is the point.

BTW, speaking of "points," yours that:
The country is changing demographically, socially and on how it views government - and not for the better
is well taken.

However, in regard to:
Blaming conspiracy theories for our loss gets us nowhere.
Widespread vote fraud on the part of the Democrat Party is no "Conspiracy Theory." If indeed we are "to get anywhere," as you put it, the fact of systematic vote fraud must be dealt with.

91 posted on 11/21/2012 12:43:19 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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