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To: INVAR
If Conservatives do not divorce themselves from the GOP, this Ruling Class cabal in league with Obama and the Marxists will render Conservatism extinct.

I can't follow that logic, but let me ask you this: what is your plan? A third party for conservatives? If so, then oppose Boehner and split the conservatives away from the RINO party. We won't have enough power now to win anything, but it won't matter when the economy finally succumbs to the massive federal debt, tax increases, Obamacare, etc. At that point we will win elections with conservatives only nominally part of the R party if at all.

Another possibility is that you want to conservatize the R party but basically keep it. We will lose to the Obama media juggernaut now, and uncertain what would happen in the long run.

I can't I have any better plan, I would like to keep the R/RINO party as unified as possible while swapping out RINOs in the primaries as much as possible. I also want to try to keep the worst of Obama's legislation from passing and I can't think of any other way than relying on RINOs.

39 posted on 11/20/2012 6:32:01 PM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer

So you want to keep doing the same thing we have been and think it’s a winning strategy. Got it.

Tell President McCain and President Romney they have my thanks.


42 posted on 11/20/2012 6:34:41 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: palmer
I can't follow that logic, but let me ask you this: what is your plan? A third party for conservatives?

If times were not as they are - and if we did not go Soviet/Cook County with national elections - then YES. Creating a Conservative party would have been a necessity since the GOP is become nothing but a satellite party to Marxist Democrats.

But I'm of the growing belief that all this talk and strategizing about the next election is moot. We became Soviet and elections from 2008 on out are just political theater to keep us placated in the false belief we actually have a choice.

Now that over 50% of the population is on some kind of government dependence with a push for open door amnesty - it would't matter now if we weren't Soviet.

If Marxist history is understood, then I no longer believe we really do have a choice, because the fruits of the federal government are those of a regime that just won a coup and the history of Marxist regimes tells us that they never lose power in elections.

We won't have enough power now to win anything

Win what? Why bother winning anything when the party you've aligned yourself with sells out to the enemy at nearly every turn and turns on the faction that gave them what power they do have?

We will lose to the Obama media juggernaut now, and uncertain what would happen in the long run.

We will ALWAYS be hated by the Obama media - because they're Marxist Socialist propagandists. Anyone (like Boehner) that wants to be 'liked' by the MSM, is cavorting with the enemy IMO. Why pander to the enemy in the first place? You DEFEAT them, you treat them as the enemy they are. You DO NOT play nice with them. If they are truly the only gatekeepers of information - then this experiment in liberty is already long-lost and it matters not what you or I do.

I would like to keep the R/RINO party as unified as possible while swapping out RINOs in the primaries as much as possible. I also want to try to keep the worst of Obama's legislation from passing and I can't think of any other way than relying on RINOs.

Nothing as idiotic in my opinion than making a deal with the devil and praying the traitors who hate you as much as the MarxoFascists do, will save us.

91 posted on 11/20/2012 7:15:07 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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