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Levin rips Kristol over tax hikes: ‘Stop talking like the lib you used to be’
Daily Caller ^ | Nov 20 2012 | Daily Caller

Posted on 11/21/2012 10:48:09 PM PST by WilliamIII

Radio host Mark Levin disagreed Monday with Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol on tax hikes, and said that he is aiding “Obama’s attack on capitalism and successful people.”

As a panelist on “Fox News Sunday,” Kristol has argued that the Republican Party should be willing to raise taxes and that the tea party wouldn’t care if “a few millionaires pay a couple percent more in taxes.”

But Levin — a prominent figure within the tea party movement — ripped Kristol’s analysis.

“Among the others who I think it’s time just to go someplace and talk among yourselves, would be Bill Kristol,” Levin said. “I don’t know what he’s added to anything other than giving aid and comfort to Obama’s attack on capitalism and successful people. This has to be the 40th time he’s said something on this.”

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1 posted on 11/21/2012 10:48:15 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Kristol, like anybody else, is free to pay voluntary taxes, in excess of what he owes.


2 posted on 11/21/2012 10:52:01 PM PST by Graybeard58 (What G.O.P.e. candidate is in store for us in 2016?)
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To: WilliamIII

Media loves to bring on “conservatives” who will agree with the liberals. Yes, they do this on purpose.


3 posted on 11/21/2012 10:52:36 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: WilliamIII

Sliding tax rates choke.

Simplify the tax codes; let every free man know where he stands, and what he must do to succeed. An ever-shifting landscape of blame invites disaster.


4 posted on 11/21/2012 10:54:22 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: WilliamIII

Kristol outted himself.. as a democrat tool..
He should never be trusted again.. EVER..
Any that “book” him should also be “marked”..


5 posted on 11/21/2012 10:57:48 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: WilliamIII

Praise the Lord there is someone out there in America land that agrees with me on this issue. It is frustrating to see so many who want taxes to increase though cannot understand it’s Obama’s further attempts to punish the success of individuals hard work (by their own labors). Krystol is showing himself; those moderate colors. Unbelievable, to portray himself as a conservative; while giggly, no doubt, to give the liberal view to all of us as a solid principle. Could others from the audience please step up and call him out. No wonder part of our base stayed home. They are sick of dealing with these kind of people. We need new people speaking for us.


6 posted on 11/21/2012 11:13:30 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. .Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: WilliamIII
Good for you, Mark Levin.

I get a daily newsletter from both the Weekly Standard and Commentary Magazine.

Like me, almost all their writers support a strong military and an assertive foreign policy when US interests and allies are endangered.

But our shared values seem to end there.

On the issues of free enterprise capitalism, on religion, on crime, on culture, on immigration, and on limited government, they are always on the attack against Conservatives, and they are always searching for a way to compromise with the Democrat Party.

7 posted on 11/21/2012 11:17:57 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Christie at the beach
Everything he said in that article was a brilliant summary; spot on.

Glad he took this issue on.

8 posted on 11/21/2012 11:25:28 PM PST by Christie at the beach (I like Newt. .Our nation's foundation is under attack.)
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To: WilliamIII

Kristol outted himself.. as a democrat tool..
He should never be trusted again.. EVER..
Any that “book” him should also be “marked”..


9 posted on 11/21/2012 11:26:03 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: WilliamIII
I once argued, unknowingly, with "The Great One" here on FR some years ago. My only claim to fame aside from being on the Paul Shannon Show as a Cub Scout.

Mark is the greatest defender of Liberty in the public realm today. I will stand with him any day.

Who is this Kristol person you speak of? Was it the cobbler's son who was fired because he wasn't fit to shine Mark Levin's shoes?

10 posted on 11/21/2012 11:40:57 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: WilliamIII
And, Oh yeah, almost forgot. "Making the wealthy pay their fair share" will not increase revenue to the gubmint, it's just a slide to increase taxes on the middle class 'cause that's where the real money's at.

Then again "It's not just about money, it's about fairness".

11 posted on 11/21/2012 11:50:45 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: WilliamIII

HEY....they have their ELITIST KNOBS we have ours....not many but one or two....Billy is one of them....Pssst hey do us a favor and shat it SQUISHY BILLY it’s hard enough for great hard noses like RUSH, ANN, MICHELLE, LAURA, SEAN AND BILL WHITTLE to keep the sheeple from straying seeins’ how they are like impressionable children. We dont need SQUISHEYS putting wack ideas into their ‘vacant enough’ heads... You have to be careful what you say around kids.


12 posted on 11/22/2012 12:02:28 AM PST by jimsin
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To: WilliamIII

HEY....they have their ELITIST KNOBS we have ours....not many but one or two....Billy is one of them....Pssst hey do us a favor and shat it SQUISHY BILLY it’s hard enough for great hard noses like RUSH, ANN, MICHELLE, LAURA, SEAN AND BILL WHITTLE to keep the sheeple from straying seeins’ how they are like impressionable children. We dont need SQUISHEYS putting wack ideas into their ‘vacant enough’ heads... You have to be careful what you say around kids.


13 posted on 11/22/2012 12:03:09 AM PST by jimsin
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To: Graybeard58
I happen to agree with Ubama that millionaires and billionaires should be asked to pay more taxes. That's "asked" to pay, just like Ubama keeps saying. So, okay, give Ubama exactly what he says he wants.

Congress should immediately pass a bill as part of the "fiscal cliff" negotiations that provides for IRS forms to "ask" millionaires and billionaires if they want to pay the higher percentages. If so, they can check the appropriate box and pay the extra taxes.

Warren Buffett and the rest of these morons can gladly check the box and write bigger checks, just like they have practically begged to do. And I'm sure they will, lest they expose themselves as shameless, lying hypocrites.

Sure, they really will!
/sarc

14 posted on 11/22/2012 12:33:47 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: WilliamIII

Making the rich “pay their fair share” to the government will not increase the “revenue” to the government. Anyone who believes that is a moron. When the rich have more money taken that used for wealth creation, there is less wealth created. For the moron who needs a further explanation, that wealth is what generates “revenue” for the government.


15 posted on 11/22/2012 2:13:06 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of other people's money.)
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To: jonrick46

For the DC insiders it dosen’t matter if the taxes on the rich are never collected.

It is all about “optics”—aka conning the ignorant public.

There will always be gigantic loopholes for the rich—they will just hire a sharp tax accountant and deduct the cost for hiring them!


16 posted on 11/22/2012 2:57:17 AM PST by cgbg (HLM--"Democracy is the theory that people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.")
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To: cgbg

The weekly standard has always been a two-trick pony: defence o Israel and opposition to totalitarianism but compromise on other conservative ideals. The Grand Alliance of conservatives, neo-cons, social conservatives, fiscal conservatives, libertarians and blue collar Reagan Democrats can’t survive if you throw one element of the alliance under the bus.


17 posted on 11/22/2012 3:24:13 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: WilliamIII

Giving in to Obama on the “tax the wealthy” scam openly agrees with the huge lie that the rich are not paying their fair share. Ben Stein is another pseudo-conservative who espouses this idiocy. The fact is forcing the wealthy to pay more in taxes than they currently do won’t drop the deficit a whit. It’s like trying to bail out Lake Superior with a thimble.


18 posted on 11/22/2012 4:03:18 AM PST by driftless2
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To: WilliamIII

I grow weary from all the talk of “raising taxes”. I don’t want any more tax increases or “new taxes” until spending is cut significantly. Time for the pols to face the facts, the can has been kicked too far and too long. Government is just theater of the absurd.


19 posted on 11/22/2012 4:07:42 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: hosepipe

One of the reasons I quit my subscription to the Weekly Standard. Fred Barnes is not much better nor is Steve Hayes.


20 posted on 11/22/2012 5:13:55 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: One Name; WilliamIII; Graybeard58; GeronL

>>Simplify the tax codes; let every free man know where he stands, and what he must do to succeed. An ever-shifting landscape of blame invites disaster.

Yes. My proposal would eliminate the IRS and the income tax completely. The government needs to get out of the “social engineering via taxes” business and get back to its very limited role.

Levin is spot on with his analysis.


21 posted on 11/22/2012 5:30:02 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: WilliamIII
I agree with Kristol but for different reasons.

This "tax the rich - make them pay their fair share" mantra is obamski's war cry. It speaks directly to the mis-guided emotions of the idiots in this country and gives them a villian to hate while diverting blame from where it belongs. It has been obscenely effective.

The left is counting on the GOP digging in its heels on this and will use it as a broom to sweep the House in 2014...thereby giving obamski both houses and full rein to pass utterly destructive laws in his final half term. The damage a leftist potus, senate and house could and would do would be life-threatening.

Increasing taxes on those with income over $250K (yes, I am in that group) would do virtually nothing to fix the economy and would likely make the jobs situation worse.

But, it would neuter the war cry and take that arrow out of their quiver for 2014.

And, the truth is that unless they strip away a boatload of deductions guys like me will still use the laws to pay little or no tax.

22 posted on 11/22/2012 5:34:17 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: WilliamIII

First, Bill Kristol can’t raise anyone’s tax rate. He’s TALKING, not doing. We understand that raising the tax rates on the wealthy is not a good idea. We also just lost an election. As a matter of fact, there will be more Democrat Senators in a couple of months. They can raise the tax rate. It could be that Kristol is a communist, but I don’t think so. I think he’s looking at this strategically. If we keep losing elections to the Democrats, it won’t matter what any Republican thinks about tax rates. The Democrats will force their ideas through based on winning elections. I think Kristol is trying to use Judo on the Democrats. Use your opponent’s attack against him. Pelosi has been out three times this past week yammering about raising taxes on the rich. Take her attack and don’t match your energy against hers. Direct her energy to the ground. She wants us to raise a big fuss over this and then she turns to the media and the Democrat voters and says, “See! The Republicans only care about the rich!” We lose big in the 2014 elections and the tax rates go up because they controlled the argument.


23 posted on 11/22/2012 6:04:12 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: WilliamIII

“Among the others who I think it’s time just to go someplace and talk among yourselves, would be Bill Kristol,” Levin said. “I don’t know what he’s added to anything other than giving aid and comfort to Obama’s attack on capitalism and successful people. This has to be the 40th time he’s said something on this.”

HOORAY Mark!


24 posted on 11/22/2012 6:15:05 AM PST by PGalt
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To: wtc911

My income is over 250k and I know of no legal and economically efficient way of sheltering it from income taxes. Maybe you have effective tax minimization strategies, but I don’t. I am the one that needs protection from Obama.


25 posted on 11/22/2012 6:16:18 AM PST by impimp
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To: WilliamIII

BIG GOVERNMENT IS CRONY SOCIALISM. DEFUND their collectives. DISMANTLE their collectives. DEPOPULATE them from the body politic.

Some of the damage socialists have inflicted on “we the people” without recourse or consequences...

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

Pay, pensions and perks of all legislators past and present rescinded for not reducing/eliminating the debt.

(...it is a moral crime to give money to support ideas with which you disagree; it means: ideas which you consider wrong, false, evil. It is a moral crime to give money to support your own destroyers. - “The Sanction of the Victims”, TOF, April 1982.7.)

“—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

Alter it.


26 posted on 11/22/2012 6:20:05 AM PST by PGalt
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To: WilliamIII
The Libs really, really want this - it's a pecker measuring contest. So offer it to them, tied to a measure that reduces the Federal Budget by 20% per year over the next 4 years and removes the 'Baseline' thing. Just put the whole deal out there and see what they do. Surely everyone, including Libs wants to reduce the Budget (aka the deficit production engine.)
27 posted on 11/22/2012 6:57:04 AM PST by I am Richard Brandon
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To: impimp
I do not mean this to sound flippant at all but you need a better CPA and an advisor who can steer you toward beneficial investments. Use every single legal deduction, for example, if one coaches little league then he may legally deduct the mileage cost to and from every practice, meeting and game. It's a small thing but there are hundreds of small things that add up.

And, if the GOP draws the line here then obamski will absolutely get the congress he wants in 2014 and the increase he wants now will look like chickenfeed compared to what they would impose without any opposition.

28 posted on 11/22/2012 6:57:55 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

I only have 1 source of income - my job. This is what limits my opportunity to minimize my taxes.


29 posted on 11/22/2012 7:12:40 AM PST by impimp
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To: generally

Tax revenue raised should fund necessary and constitutional government. Period. Not Planned Parenthood, not private organizations like ACORN etc. If its not part of governments core constitutional functions, it should not be funded.


30 posted on 11/22/2012 7:15:26 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: impimp
With that income you should be diversified...owning rental properties generates cash flow while delivering a boatload of deductions.

My investment property strategy involves buying smaller properties that are in good school districts near LIRR stations and/or hospitals.

The one exception to this rule is that we bought a potential retirement condo on a golf course in Arizona. We rent it out and take the deductions. We may or may not use it ourselves later on but for now it is not only paying for itself but generating about 18% per annum.

This has been fruitful for the past two decades or so but changes in how income from such sources will be taxed might make it less attractive as a new venture.

At the very least you should have a fat Roth IRA.

31 posted on 11/22/2012 8:15:49 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: wtc911

I appreciated your tips. Unfortunately I am a tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theorist. Because of this I have been avoiding 401k and other types of registered money because I fear that the government will confiscate it and/or change the rules to make me regret doing it in the first place. Something like that happened in Canada years ago such that capital gains wound up being better outside of registered retirement funds than inside, from a tax perspective.


32 posted on 11/22/2012 8:20:33 AM PST by impimp
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To: WilliamIII

When I heard Kristol make that statement on Fox, my mouth dropped open. The guy oozes sleaze and is clueless besides. What does a GOP-e know about the Tea Pary, anyhow? How dare he presume what we would, or would not, care about?


33 posted on 11/22/2012 8:27:24 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: WilliamIII

I’m inclined to agree with Krystol on this. Most of the very rich do reside on the east coast and California. Hey this is what they voted for then feel free. In fact I’d be in favor for a 90% tax on every millionaire in Hollywood. Also if they want to power NYC and Malbu on %100 solar and wind go for it. Limit the kind of cars they can drive. Give them what they good and hard.


34 posted on 11/22/2012 8:37:56 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: Artie
Artie said: I don’t want any more tax increases or “new taxes” until spending is cut significantly.

I wouldn't consider cuts to be "significant" until they eliminate all the programs that our federal government has no business doing.

That includes ALL welfare, social security, most "scientific studies", sugar subsidies, and a myriad of other nonsense. My view of what the federal government should be doing is completely consistent with the idea that federal taxes are way too high right now. There is absolutely no justification for raising anybody's taxes.

35 posted on 11/22/2012 12:36:29 PM PST by William Tell
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To: blueunicorn6
blueunicorn6 said: "We also just lost an election. As a matter of fact, there will be more Democrat Senators in a couple of months. They can raise the tax rate. "

The House is still in Republican hands. The only tax rate increases that are assured are those that were already passed by a prior Republican House and are part of the "fiscal cliff".

This House might change hands in 2014 if the libs and media are successful at blaming the Republicans for the coming collapse.

36 posted on 11/22/2012 12:42:59 PM PST by William Tell
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