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Walmart Workers Protest Over Compensation At Oakland Store [Hostess Twinkie Them!]
CBS San Francisco ^ | November 21, 2012

Posted on 11/22/2012 8:08:31 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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To: central_va
For most manufactured goods in the USA, labor accounts for less then 10% of the retail price. Off shoring production only saves a few pennies on the dollar. A small tariff of say 5% would raise revenue an offset that. Thomas Jefferson would agree.

Last time I checked, it was steady at about 3%...

It's the other things like safe working conditions and breathable air and drinkable water that significantly raises the cost of products...

61 posted on 11/22/2012 9:06:54 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool

Amen.


62 posted on 11/22/2012 9:07:02 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The goal is to have the unions become such a PITA that poor obama is forced, forced to nationalize them.

See also: German Labor Force,"Strength through Joy", etc...

63 posted on 11/22/2012 9:07:56 AM PST by null and void (America - Abducted by Aliens...)
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To: teflon9

The US economy grew like a weed on steroids in the 1950s and 1960s when we had both of those things. So your point is?

Are you forgetting that major European economies and manufacturing were destroyed during WW 2?

American manufacturers were up and running strong after the war building the machines to restore Europe so our economy grew. It was during that period of growth that the takers affixed themselves like a leach to suck the blood out of our economy.


64 posted on 11/22/2012 9:08:44 AM PST by fudimo
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To: teflon9

>>It may not have been called “living wage”, but it just “was”. That’s why someone even in an unskilled job was able to buy a new car, a modest home of his own, and even put a kid through college. A “living wage” in all but name.<<

IOW you got caught.

Living Wage laws are modifications of Minimum Wage laws.

You should quit showing both your ignorance of economics and capitalism AND your support for unions and socialism/collectivism.

The market will still pay well for those who provide value. If you want automatic jobs for breathing, go to Greece — we can see how that worked for them.

Note: the 1950’s were gone 60 years ago. Just so you know.


65 posted on 11/22/2012 9:09:47 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: fudimo

Please see post 51.


66 posted on 11/22/2012 9:10:34 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: freedumb2003
Not gonna happen and protectionism in this day and age is economic suicide.

We are already going thru economic suicide with globalization...

We have only 47% of the people on food stamps...Won't be long, it will be 80-90%...I hope you are willing to pay for that...I hope you will still have a job to pay for that...

67 posted on 11/22/2012 9:11:43 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool; central_va

>>It’s the other things like safe working conditions and breathable air and drinkable water that significantly raises the cost of products... <<

You have never owned a business have you? Or even run one?

Because you (iscool) are in contention for one of the top 10 stupidest posts ever at FR.


68 posted on 11/22/2012 9:11:43 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: freedumb2003

Chill with the red-baiting already. The 1950’s were gone 60 years ago. Just so you know


69 posted on 11/22/2012 9:12:18 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: Iscool

So as a society we should idle the left side of the bell curve and let them live a subsidized life style, similar to the way we treat livestock, to have pristine air and water? Offshoring is playing into the lefts hands. They get rid of those smelly factories and layed off workers become democrats. It is a win-win for them thanks to the Free Traitors.


70 posted on 11/22/2012 9:12:27 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Michael Barnes

Offshoring is playing into the lefts hands. They get rid of those smelly factories and layed off workers become democrats. It is a win-win for them thanks to the Free Traitors.


71 posted on 11/22/2012 9:14:59 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fudimo; teflon9

>>The US economy grew like a weed on steroids in the 1950s and 1960s when we had both of those things. So your point is?<<

Don’t you know we should go back to the 1950’s and 1960s? The good old days. Them darkies knew their place. Them Pat Boone and Elivs, what a degenerate bunch of characters. And we didn’t have many of them thar hippies. No wasting time on this internet thingy.

If them economics was good enough for my grandpappy, then it is good enough for us!


72 posted on 11/22/2012 9:15:37 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The deal is, nobody is FORCING them to work for Walmart. If they think they can do better then they should simply leave and work for someone who is offering them something better.


73 posted on 11/22/2012 9:16:27 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Minimum wage is more than some of them deserve


74 posted on 11/22/2012 9:16:27 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: all the best

It is BS that they don’t see benefits of those profits. Walmart pays a quarterly bonus to associates. And, based on performance, they get a $0.40 or 0.50 cent raise a year. Mediocre employee, get a 0.40 cent raise per year. I don’t see that where I work every year. And many people never get raises year over year.


75 posted on 11/22/2012 9:16:41 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: teflon9

Michael Moore: please explain to the thread what leverage those evil corporations do, in fact, have against unions?

When an evil corporation hits union extortion then their only options are to shift operations to a better state, shift operations to a better country or to go bankrupt (like Hostess).

Capital goes where it is treated best. India, China, Korea, Vietnam, Mongolia and so forth are gaining capital because they are (comparatively) hospitable to capital. America is bleeding capital because it is currently inhospitable to it.

Your plan - such as it is - would be to institute financial repression. You would wall up capital so that it couldn’t move out of the country and also force Americans to buy protected, Government-approved brands.

Which would be an absolute disaster. Financial repression hasn’t worked for Argentina or Venezuela or Zimbabwe - why would it work for the US of A?


76 posted on 11/22/2012 9:16:50 AM PST by agere_contra ("An unjust law ceases to be a law: it becomes an act of violence". Thomas Aquinas)
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To: teflon9

>>Chill with the red-baiting already. The 1950’s were gone 60 years ago. Just so you know<<

Hey, when someone espouses socialist policies — and even worse suggests all Conservatives should — I call them out and call a rose a rose.

Like I said — Realism is a fundamental Conservative value.


77 posted on 11/22/2012 9:17:44 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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To: teflon9

The US has the highest corporate taxes on Earth and the harshest regulations, do you think companies want to invest here?


78 posted on 11/22/2012 9:19:21 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: 9YearLurker
Walmart pays at a level reflective of the employee contributions

So who determines what a person's labor is worth??? The Chinese gov't???

and the competitive labor market.

You mean the illegals from Mexico???

Minimum wage has less value now than it did in 1960...Minimum wage is for high school and college kids...Not a man with a family who is forced to get the rest of his needed income from the gov't...

79 posted on 11/22/2012 9:19:39 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: Iscool

>>We are already going thru economic suicide with globalization...

We have only 47% of the people on food stamps...Won’t be long, it will be 80-90%...I hope you are willing to pay for that...I hope you will still have a job to pay for that...<<

That is’t globalism that caused that, per se. Do you know what really killed Hostess? (hint — it wasn’t the Union).

And how do you propose stopping globalism? By the wave of your little hand? It is here, like it or not.


80 posted on 11/22/2012 9:22:27 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Here comes bama claus here comes bama claus left down bama claus lane!)
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