Posted on 11/22/2012 1:17:27 PM PST by Altura Ct.
Those who reject, neglect the God of Israel will inevitably return to the worship of the gods of nature. Lewis Mumford pointed out that the Enlightenment was a new form of worship of the Sun God. The Masons even adopted the forms of worship of the ancient gods. Gibbon worshiped the Rome of its Gold Age, and Napoleon famously posed as Augustus Caesar, to whom he bore a striking physical resemblence. Mussolini and Hitler were both tyrants whose iconography was basically classical, Roman and Germano-Roman.
The United States is not a perfect nation, but the best nation nonetheless.
To you commies that wish to disparage our heritage, ESAD as soon as possible. Thanks!
There is no evidence of any permanent settlements i.e. cities in North America like that in central America under the Aztecs. Leftist historians dispense with the truth in order to support their twisted vision that the Indians of the Americas all lived in perfect harmony with nature until the evil Europeans came along. The truth was the opposite: the Indians of the Americas had segments of their populations who just as cruel, warlike, and rapacious as Europeans or other peoples of the world.
Look at the Mongols. American Indians are descendants of the Mongols who invaded Europe and southern Asia (not the other way around)slaughtering millions and leaving no cultural improvements in their wake...just death and misery. At least the Indians of the Americas contributed some wonderful vegetables to the world. But they also contributed tobacco which has killed multi-millions.
Again, the hard truth is that the Indians above the Rio Grande were small in number. Not more than a few million. If there were numbers substantially larger than that, unbiased historians would have published that fact. Every time I read stories purporting to show the populations above the Rio Grande around ten-twenty million, they're based on sheer speculation and not anything resembling hard data i.e. facts. The simple facts are: no large cities and settlements; no large Indian populations.
Many Indian reservations that have legalized gambling are now doing extremely well economically. The Ho-Chunk tribe of Wisconsin, close to where I live, has casinos that rake in millions annually. But there are Indian tribes in Wisconsin that do not do so well. There is one county in Wisconsin (Menominee) that is part of the Menominee Indian tribe. It is the poorest county in Wisconsin and has the worst health rates.
The Indians left significant constructions in the four corners area, structures which abased on sophisticated astronomical knowledge. Theer were about a thousand years ago, a large concentration of people in the vicintiy of St.Louis based on agriculture. Such things did not last ,but they existed at one time or another. Most of the Indian nations east of the Mississippi depended on the cultivation of corn, and the white found huge fields on either side the the Ohio. This was supplemented by hunting, and it is speculated that the reason why the population did not grow was a lack of meat animals and a subsequent lack of protein, so that when an area did grow, it soon reached a limit. The English found a significant population in the Chesapeake area, and organized un the Powhatten into a confederacy.
The first settlers existed by trading with the Indians for their corn surplus, but as John Smith tells us, because the Stllers ran out of food, they had to resort to raiding the indians for what they would not trade.
Below the Rio Grande was different because the Mayans and the Aztecs had actual cities and other organized manifestations of cultures with sizable populations. Not true in America above Mexico.
A few million at which time? The Indians greatly outnumbered the whites along the east coast for many years, and the effect of disease among indians in direct contact with whites is part of the folklore. Cahokia is the only place we know about that had a large contentration of people, and that was about 100,000. The mound culture was about on the same level as the pre-historic Briton cultures, and evidence is that like these early Europeans trade occured over thousands of miles. Now of course, all the nonsense about the indians being in harmony with nature has no more basis than their adaptation to local conditions and their religious beliefs, which put so much stress on dreams. War was as much a feature of tribal lives as it was in the old world. The truth lies somewhere in the middle, because Europeans who read about the indians through reports from the News World were inclined to sensationalize and let their imaginations run wild. The notion that the Indians were somehow connected with the Lost Tribes of Israel was rife up until the 19th century linguist finally put paid to the notion that Indian languages had any connection to ancient Hebrew. IAC, can any such phantasies be any more bizarre than those of Rousseau, and his notions of the purity of the primitive life?
I have one of those, too. Here’s his “Happy Thanksgiving” post -
“Wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving, in the spirit of the holiday....and not the sordid history.”
Communists are working on removing our holidays, our traditions and our history incrementally with education and infiltration. They even told us this would happen and it did and is. Christmas, Independence Day and Thanksgiving are the big ones - those have to be changed or viewed as evil to be shunned. The rest like Veteran’s Day and Memorial Day, etc will just be played down and soon viewed as nothing more than “Hallmark” holidays.
I guess “Labor Day” will always be OK with them.
To paraphrase Lenny Bruce, "They bettah off."
There were also plentiful Leni Lenape (Delaware) indians in the Philadelphia-Delaware settlements. Philadelphia's map is full of Indian names, such as Conshohocken, Wissahickon, Moyamensing, Shackamaxon, etc.
Your interesting posts about native American life are a surprise bonus on this thread that started with a lefty nutbag’s toxic screed. Thanks!
So is my territory----Wisconsin and the upper midwest. That doesn't mean millions of Indians lived here.
The tendency was historically to minimize their numbers. Of course, today, it is almost impossible to reconstruct the environment in which they lived, and hence the ecology that sustained them. They did not exist in great numbers but in significant numbers.
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