Excommunicated US priest laicized for public dissent on ordination of women

Life Site News ^ | 11/21/2012 | Thaddeus Baklinski

[IbJensen]

Maryknoll has been a disgrace for decades now and members no doubt believe that Vatican II was the signal to do your own thing without any recourse. In this they were not alone. The rest of the Church worldwide has engaged in disgraceful acts that would indicate the Church reconstituted to its position pre-Vatican II era would weed out the cafeteria Catholics. A smaller, more devout group of adherents is preferable to a gaggle of heretic modernists.

This unworthy troublemaker did his own thing for most of his years as a priest, and while his and Maryknoll's actions have not been pleasing to God, nor the post Vatican II Church, what would one expect? He should never have been ordained in the first place and it would appear that the only way the Catholic Church will again become catholic is to repute the evils promulgated by Vatican II.

I pray the Church will get itself in order before the Second Coming.

[verga]

When we have spineless Bishops and ones that disregard dogmatic teaching in lieu of “Social Justice” what do you expect. Chicago has Phlegher Maryknoll has Roy Bougeries (sp?) and the cycle continues.

[FES0844]

Chicago has Phlegher .....

He should be next.

[NonValueAdded]

I believe the statement opened with "qui mortuus est et constituit vobis Papa?"

[Celtic Conservative]

LOL

CC

[soycd]

>any Catholic bishop who attempts the ordination of a woman or any woman who participates in such a ceremony, is subject to automatic excommunication.

What exactly is the problem with a female holding the job title that a male holds? Does it involve muscular physical labor that a woman can’t physically perform on average?

Serious question.

[vladimir998]

The problem is that a woman cannot be ordained. There’s no way to ordain a woman. The Church has no power ordain women. Jesus and the Church never did it and won’t do it now.

[AnAmericanMother]

Ok, here's a serious answer:

In the Catholic Church, the central focus and purpose of the service is not the preaching (as in many other churches) but the Eucharist.

And Catholics believe that in the Mass, through the actions of the priest standing in the shoes of Christ ("alter Christi"), the bread and wine become the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ Himself, for the benefit of His Bride, the Church.

So there's a profound ontological problem with a woman taking on that role.She cannot be a bridegroom, no matter how badly she wants to.

[autumnraine]

Jesus never did it because societal norms and laws of the time of Jesus wouldn’t allow.

That has nothing to do with God.

And Paul’s obvious disdain for women aside, Paul was not a writer of rules as he was not a Christian until after Jesus was in heaven.

[autumnraine]

Honestly, Jesus never drove a car either. Are you sinning if you aren’t Amish?

[Venturer]

If you have to ask the question, you wouldn’t understand the answer.

[AnAmericanMother]

And Jesus had SO much concern for societal norms, you know, consorting with tax collectors and prostitutes, and flouting the Pharasaical laws, and calling the powers that be a den of vipers and whited sepulchres . . . and dying a shameful death as a criminal. . . .

He did exactly what He intended.

[COBOL2Java]

What exactly is the problem with a female holding the job title that a male holds? Does it involve muscular physical labor that a woman can’t physically perform on average?

Serious question.

Serious answer: ORDINATIO SACERDOTALIS

[autumnraine]

Having compassion for those ‘trapped in sin’ is not the same as placing a woman in a dangerous position by supporting her as the head of a church.

In those days (as in some current nations), that kind of talk and thinking would get the woman killed.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Jesus never did it because societal norms and laws of the time of Jesus wouldn’t allow.”

False. Jesus’ spiritual plan was not bound by any societal norm. He was forbidden by societal norms from talking to Samaritan women - yet He did so at the well.

“That has nothing to do with God.”

Jesus is God. It, therefore, has everything to do with God.

“And Paul’s obvious disdain for women aside,”

There was no disdain. St. Paul clearly admired women: Prisca, Phoebe, Mary, Junia, Julia, Tryphaena and Tryphosa,
Euodia and Syntyche, Chloe, Lydia.

“Paul was not a writer of rules as he was not a Christian until after Jesus was in heaven.”

Jesus founded the Church, not Paul. Paul passed on what was revealed to him.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Honestly, Jesus never drove a car either. Are you sinning if you aren’t Amish?”

Driving a car is not a spiritual matter and has nothing to do with the work of God in any way. Feel free to keep making silly and unrelated analogies. That’s what liberals like you do.

[GalaxyAB]

Painting with a pretty broad brush, aren’t we?

[Wonder Warthog]

"In those days (as in some current nations), that kind of talk and thinking would get the woman killed."

St. Peter's wife died a martyr. Just being a Christian was enough....sex didn't matter, nor did being "head of a church".

But the simple fact is that JC set it up with an all-male priesthood. There is no biblical support (or for Catholics, biblical OR traditional support) for a female priesthood. There "is" such support for female deacons (deaconesses), though there are none today, AFAIK. THAT could legitimately be changed. Female priests....no.

The Church obviously has no problem with women being in positions of power (as many nuns and other female religious) have shown throughout history.

[Ransomed]

Apart from theological reasons, just look at the sort of folks who want to be ‘women priests’ in the Catholic Church. These are all super-libs into everything orthodox Christianity isn’t—try to find one woman who wants to be a priestess who also thinks abortion and ‘gay marriage’ is wrong. They can’t even bring themselves to use the right term, and come up with meaningless words like ‘woman priest,’ which is like saying ‘man priestess.’

Freegards