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To: IbJensen
So, you still have nothing of substance to defend your statements, but instead try to link me to Satan, Obama, and all other devoid creatures of the night. Never happen, FRiend. I know in whom I believe, and he is sitting at the Right Hand of God!

Over 2000 years, huh? Sophomoric basically describes your POV and lack of effective response. My religion has been around since the inception of this world! I am a created being, grafted into the Jewish family. In my readings, God-centered religions don't prance around in gilt structures and fancy gowns... rather they go into all the world.

Please cite Scripture that justifies your ideas, and please leave out Peter, the guy who denied Christ. At least he realized his error and wept. But, Peter's role was preaching to the JEWS!

Please cite Scripture when you respond, and quit your belly-aching about my posts. You have not responded with anything but denigration and attempts to discredit what I have clearly stated, through your childish attempts at humor. According to Scripture. I am a saint. ALL BELIEVERS ARE SAINTS, and God is NOT a respecter of persons!

God spent a lot of effort to establish Paul as the speaker to the gentiles, and Peter historically was preaching to the Jews... read your entire Bible, and you may learn something besides those things which your leaders want to use to keep you under their tent! The Gospels are the Good News about Christ. Paul's writings are instructional about life in the Spirit. Yet, when cited, his teachers are lowered in preference to elevating your groups reign of terror (for reference, see:

The size of your group doesn't matter. Millions of lemmings jump over the cliffs and into the sea (Disney was partially correct!)... in attempt for survival. Many die, because they have been led astray by sightless leaders.

Have a nice life... I do, and will continue, through the Power of the Holy Spirit living in me!

Here's some history lessons for you to research for yourself...

THE INQUISITION:
A Study in Absolute Catholic Power

...Those who classify themselves as Christians can be divided into 2 broad groups: those who have chosen to allow the Bible to be their final authority and those who have chosen to allow men to be their final authority. For sake of simplicity, I shall refer to the first group as "Bible believing Christians." The latter group has always been best represented by Roman Catholicism, by far its largest, most powerful, and most influential component. The Roman Catholic hierarchy has always boldly stated that it is not dependent upon Scripture alone, but also accepts tradition as another pillar of truth -- and where a conflict exists, tradition receives the greater acceptance. Being its own arbiter of what is to be accepted as truth, it accepts no authority as being higher than itself. This explains why the Catholic belief system has been constantly evolving over the centuries.

This also explains why a fierce antagonism has always existed between Bible believing Christianity and Roman Catholicism. Rome's frequent spiritual innovations excites the passions of Bible believers, who react adversely to religious modifications that are at odds with the eternal, changeless Word of God. Harboring a supreme confidence in the Book, a trust which reflects their trust in the Holy Spirit who authored the Scriptures, the Bible believers boldly challenge the suppositions of the Catholic hierarchy. In the course of this spiritual warfare, Catholic people are frequently converted from trust in Rome's complex religious system to a childlike faith in the Saviour and a simple reliance on His Word. Many such converts ultimately leave the Church of Rome to join local, New Testament churches. Frequently in history, the trickle of individuals who were making this remarkable transformation turned into a flood. Such ruptures cannot go unchecked by the Catholic hierarchy. As with any bureaucracy, its primary interest is its own protection and propagation.

The nature of its response to the inroads made by spiritual challengers is dictated by its cultural surroundings. The more Catholic the culture, the more severe the response. In past centuries, when Rome's ecclesiastical power was virtually absolute throughout Europe, the intensity of the attacks by the papists upon their spiritual enemies could be equally absolute. Ignoring the injunction of II Corinthians 10:4 ("For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal..."), Catholicism built its own philosophical system to justify the use of carnal (fleshly, human, physical) means to achieve spiritual ends.

Having divorced herself from Biblical absolutes, Catholicism adopted a theology in which she sees herself as the church founded upon the Apostle Peter by Jesus Christ, and alone empowered to bring salvation to the world. Further, she believes herself assigned the daunting task of bringing Christ's kingdom to fruition on earth. With those dogmas forming her philosophical foundation, she seeks her power in the political sphere as well as the religious realm. To whatever degree she achieves political power, to that degree she feels compelled to use her secular influence as a weapon against her spiritual adversaries. Thus, down through the centuries, we see that in those countries in which Catholicism had achieved absolute power, the pope's followers have not hesitated to brutally subdue the enemies of "the Church". Although Jews, Moslems, pagans, and others have felt the wrath of Rome, her special fury has always been reserved for her bitterest and most effective challengers -- Bible believing Christians. Only as the political climate changed in recent centuries did the Catholic hierarchy see it expedient to change tactics and appear to be more tolerant. Yet, to this day we see persecution continuing in those places on the globe dominated by Catholicism. The degree of the persecution is determined by the degree of control. ... (-excerpted, click link above to read more.)


54 posted on 11/24/2012 5:39:38 AM PST by WVKayaker ("Mitt Romney couldn't keep up with lies and spin of Barack Obama" - Sarah Palin 10/24)
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To: WVKayaker

Then lay off the Christian bashing.

That is all you’ve done on this thread. You must lead a mean and ugly life if that’s all you’ve got to do all day. You’re as bad as the guy on another thread I posted that was anti-porn, who said he let’s his boys watch all they want and doesn’t mind that they’re little wankers.

Go attack him.


55 posted on 11/24/2012 5:44:34 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: WVKayaker
You're wrong about the Inquisition, too.

When you get your information from a writer who heads his article with a reference to the "Whore of Babylon" and sprinkles it freely with anti-Catholic propaganda, you and he are simply indulging yourselves in a mutual fact-free hate-fest and learning absolutely nothing.

You might as well go read the Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk for all the good it will do you. But you might believe that to be factual, I suppose.

"There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church, which is of course, quite a different thing."

----Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen

57 posted on 11/24/2012 11:51:36 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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