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The Phrase That Lost Romney the Election
RCP ^ | 11/23/2012 | Heather Higgins and Alex Cortes

Posted on 11/23/2012 2:11:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: JediJones
I spent more time than I wanted reading what Willard Mitt said. He just appears to be a real believing latter day Saint. His charitable giving beyond tithing to the LDS is consistent with being a good Mormon. His statist acts also fits in with Mormonism. The LDS combines a unique set of beliefs in individual responsibility with a form of church oriented collectivism which is shared only by a few of the pietist groups such as the Amish (the real Amish). Being an observant temple going Mormon obedient to the church leadership and a charitable but hard working self respecting individual is the core of LDS behavior. Willard is all of this and his relentless cheerfulness is all a part of the rather panglossian mentality that envelopes Mormon true believers.
81 posted on 11/23/2012 4:24:40 PM PST by robowombat
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To: SeekAndFind
I absolutely believe this. So many times during this election I heard, "But Obama cares!!!" In the first place, he doesn't care. And in the second place, what if he did give the impression of caring? Do we want a President who can say "I care," or one who DOES something? I am thoroughly disgusted with my fellow Americans for voting for someone just because they think "he cares."

When Dennis Miller was on the Tonight Show, he got into an argument with Jay Leno about this very thing. Leno was saying, "But Obama cares!!" and Miller slammed him for it rather nicely.

82 posted on 11/23/2012 4:26:13 PM PST by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let us never forget - Elections Have Consequences.


83 posted on 11/23/2012 4:27:08 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: robowombat
panglossian

I will admit that I had to look that one up.

84 posted on 11/23/2012 4:27:16 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Horse manure.
Romney needed to take that (accurate) “47%” comment and run with it. The Democrat party base is a pack of moochers who want their scumbag Democrat politicians to confiscate more and more... from their neighbors... and hand the loot over to them, the moochers, in exchange for their votes. This is fact. It has nothing to do with “caring” for people except to people who equate “caring” with “free stuff”. ...And that would be the moochers.


85 posted on 11/23/2012 4:29:57 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: EternalVigilance

Eternal Vigilance was panglossian in his views when he thought he was going to become the next president of the US.


86 posted on 11/23/2012 4:37:01 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: robowombat
Your typical LDS true believer is pretty similar to the true believers among the Church of the First Born with which Joseph Smith had relations ~ back when he was seeing divine beings and such.

They have been exceptionally legalistic since their first founding in the 1500s by Russian Orthodox priests in lapland. They are just as legalistic now since their arrival in America in the early 1600s. And the new, reformed model in Sweden and Finland (Old Apostolic Lutheran Church ~ First Born) is also very legalistic, and pietistic.

Swedenborg studied the phenomenon, organized it along more Masonic lines, and introduced it as the Church of Swedenborg. Sometimes Mormons are accused of having copied Swedenborg, but I think it's more a fact of their all copying the same source ~ the pre-laestidian Church of the First Born.

Not that there's anything wrong with being legalistic, but sometimes it can be carried to extremes that are harmful to the individual ~ e.g. COFB in Oklahoma, Idaho and elsewhere have a very, very high rate of infant and children ~ worse than in any third-world country. They wouldn't take you to the doctor if your life depended on it ~ literally.

87 posted on 11/23/2012 4:37:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
I usually only respond to lucid posts.

Blacks vote 95% for blacks because they're "brutha's", AND, the MAJORITY of the black vote comes from inner-city-tribal-parasites.

You got a problem with that, take it up with those living in Deetroit, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc., and face the reality.

Also, check one of the charts to see which income groups contribute 80% of the Federal Revenues from income taxes.....

88 posted on 11/23/2012 4:40:16 PM PST by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: pepperdog

> The “cares about people” is a typical liberal voter. It’s all about feelings.

Yes, and that works in advertising too. People base many important decisions on feelings and emotion: selection of a marriage partner, naming children, color and shape of things they buy, travel destinations, etc.


89 posted on 11/23/2012 4:40:21 PM PST by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

‘cares about you’ is a good choice. Another ‘corporations are people’ makes the same point. But in the end it was the primaries that defined him as unwanted, even by Republicans.


90 posted on 11/23/2012 4:40:31 PM PST by ex-snook (without forgiveness there is no Christianity)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I never thought or said such a thing, much less acted optimistic about it. You’re making things up.

It would have taken a miracle of biblical proportions for me to win, and I always said so, every step of the way.

The sort of big miracle in which hearts and minds of folks like yourself were turned one hundred and eighty degrees.


91 posted on 11/23/2012 4:46:38 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Fraud and possible a deal between Romney and Obama lost him the election.


92 posted on 11/23/2012 4:48:20 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: ansel12
47% of Americans who receive government assistance are a lost cause.

The social security collecting people, many of who don't owe income tax, are the most pro-republican voting age group in America.

Yes there are many pro Republican SSI recipients. Not sure if they are the most pro Republican as a group.

SSI is a government administered pension program. In theory it should not be considered "government assistance" because people pay into it, putting aside for a moment the funky, pyramid-scheme-like, actuarial calculations that fund it. There are many good people who paid their SSI tax. I wouldn't necerserily consider them as receiving "government assistance".

About the SSI actuarial calcualtions...

Link

93 posted on 11/23/2012 4:49:36 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: EternalVigilance

So then, what were you doing, and why?


94 posted on 11/23/2012 4:51:40 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: JediJones

Wow, that was an insightful post, good description.


95 posted on 11/23/2012 4:52:00 PM PST by ansel12 (The only Senate seat GOP pick up was the Palin endorsed Deb FischerÂ’s successful run in Nebraska)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I was representing conservatives, who had no representation.

What were you doing?


96 posted on 11/23/2012 4:53:36 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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To: jwalsh07
I do not care for the leeches in America either. And I will not pretend to. Romney lost because the leeches understand that they now have a coalition that enables them to vote themselves more of other peoples money. The really bad news is that this is self perpetuating and unless their coalition partners fear for their lives this is unlikely to change

Not sure that it's self perpetuating in the long run. At some point the leeches will get less as the producers stop producing.

97 posted on 11/23/2012 4:54:54 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Boogieman

I don’t think that a lot of them even have any particularly traumatic experiences to blame for not growing up. It has just become culturally popular and acceptable to act like bratty children.


98 posted on 11/23/2012 4:54:58 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: EternalVigilance

How were you representing conservatives who had no representation? I was trying to save our republic—our republic is dead and you helped kill it.


99 posted on 11/23/2012 4:58:37 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I hope someday you’ll realize that you can’t save the republic by supporting liberals.


100 posted on 11/23/2012 5:00:47 PM PST by EternalVigilance (America's creed: Our rights come from God, not men. Governments exist to secure those rights.)
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