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To: zipper
No I dont think the right to bear arms is only to protect against armed robbery - I was only going on about that aspect because I was specifically replying to your argument about carrying weapons on the tube and the way criminals have "advantages" in gun-free society.

Of course there are many other reasons to bear arms. My reading of the US constitution makes it quite clear you have that right and that attempts by liberals to restrict that right are disingenous and frankly unconstitutional. The only point I was trying to make is that is the only reason you need to give for bearing arms. Arguments about whether it reduces crime rates or not (personally I dont think it makes much difference one way or another) are really moot.

I find it particularly telling that you equate not carrying firearms to "emasculation". I'm perfectly comfortable with my sexuality as it happens, but I understand if you are one of those people who has a need to holdand caress very large guns to prop up your masculinity.

I can't discuss your Jay Leno quote as it is a straw-man argument.

I don't know what the reference to fox hunting is about. I suspect you were talking to someone else not me. I have no views on the matter either way.

55 posted on 11/26/2012 3:01:14 PM PST by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
I find it particularly telling that you equate not carrying firearms to "emasculation".

You don't get it, and never will. It's only a symptom. Your country is already far down the road to serfdom. You were raised in that environment. You have allegiance to a queen, which is quaint but does nothing for your individual rights. Your government is not concerned with individual rights, it's only collective rights that matter. We are headed down a similar path to serfdom thanks to our own experiments in socialistic practices that resulted in half our population being composed of worthless peasants in only a couple of generations, but we still have millions that value individual rights over collective rights, unlike your country. You mock us as though we only want guns to bolster our self-image, but your perspective is fatally corrupted. Your country is already lost, we are trying to take ours back before it is similarly too late.

56 posted on 11/30/2012 5:19:58 PM PST by zipper
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