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To: Kaslin

I have been charged, not totally unfairly, of being anti-socon on this website. Let me clarify what exactly I believe.

I believe America would be a better place if social conservatives were in charge. I also believe that unless a basic version of the socon belief system replaces secular humanism as our dominant public philosophy, America will be destroyed.

BUT

Since we cannot change idiots voting as the system by which governments come to power here, I want socons to adopt the secular humanist approach to politics, which is to never lose an election by scaring the idiots who vote.

At this last skill, socons are seriously defective.

Abortion could be seriously restricted, RIGHT NOW, but the rape and abortion exception will never be ended by the voters we have now. On this issue, socons are like libertarians who would legalize heroin.

I argued here with the Todd Akin supporters, simply over the obvious fact that as of late August he had become unelectable (and I have yet to hear one say that this was correct). The two basic strains of pro-Akin argument - 1) The Democrats stand by their men and 2) it doesn’t matter if McCaskill gets six more years, it matters what happens at judgement both DECREASE the probability that we will ever come to power (until Jesus comes).

If socons feel called to be Jeremiah, that’s fine. We sure need prophets.

But they should then stop pretending that by participating in elections that they expect to make things better.


14 posted on 11/24/2012 5:22:00 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: Jim Noble; sakic; Jim Robinson

Jim Noble....is your best friend on FR “sakic”?

Neither of you belong on Free Republic


34 posted on 11/24/2012 9:11:50 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Jim Noble
I believe America would be a better place if social conservatives were in charge. .... BUT ..... Since we cannot change .... the system by which governments come to power here, I want socons to adopt the secular humanist approach to politics, which is to never lose an election by scaring the idiots who vote. ... If socons feel called to be Jeremiah, that’s fine .... But they should then stop pretending that by participating in elections that they expect to make things better.

And you don't see a problem with your position? No internal contradictions, no cognitive dissonance? You might want to re-read the condensed version of your post above.

It reads like the Straussian take on hell: "If we must burn with the idiots down the street, then it were better that we not make a fuss about it; let them proceed as fools and sinners and burn us all, than disturb their depravity and scare them farther into the charms and arms of Lord Moloch."

You and Christopher Caldwell over at The Weekly Standard would seem to get along fine. He appears to want social conservatives, especially the Southern ones, to solve our problems by emigrating.

60 posted on 11/24/2012 11:27:03 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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