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To: LucianOfSamasota
I get so sick and tired of this argument. It's because most of the GOP don't have the guts to fight for so-called social conservative issues that we continually lose the fight. By social conservative issues I mean the following:

1. Pro life
2.Pro Family
3.Pro Traditional Marriage

Since the conservative position on these matters has constituted what western civilisation has defined as 'Moral' for millenia I would like to know why anyone who holds these positions is suddenly a radical?

I keep hearing pundits and politcal consultants talk about how we on the right keep moving more and more to the fringe. Where's the movement? I haven't changed my position on any of the above issues in my life. I've always been pro life, pro family and have always believed that marriage was the civilizing and moral foundation of our society. Always! If you would have suggested to a man 100 years ago...say in 1912...that his great grandchildren would be ridiculed for being against abortion and against homosexual marriage he would have looked at you as if you had 2 heads! But those of us who hold those time honored and NATURAL ideas are now radical right wing extremists!

What a world!

23 posted on 11/26/2012 10:18:02 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: pgkdan

another problem is the “old pharts” who are in charge of the local republican clubs. I remebmer going to a meeting and seeing a group of politically incompetent retireees in charge of one club. Those buffoons could not win a one horse race.


26 posted on 11/26/2012 10:21:27 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pgkdan
I get so sick and tired of this argument. It's because most of the GOP don't have the guts to fight for so-called social conservative issues that we continually lose the fight. By social conservative issues I mean the following:

I'm not understanding? We are losing because we aren't fighting for social conservative values? So what, do the social conservatives just get P.O'ed and go vote social liberal to spite themselves? Politics is a spectrum, not a pidgeon hole. You win by appealing to the greatest number of voters. Politics is not quantum either. You just can't jump from one side to the other without first transitioning the middle. Conservatives are losing because they keep pushing people to the other side. We should try pulling them from the other side.

30 posted on 11/26/2012 10:28:02 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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