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Now Obama wants your 401(k): Treasury, Labor on path to nationalize retirement
WND ^ | November 25, 2012 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 11/27/2012 11:17:14 AM PST by Perseverando

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To: OSHA
My 401K is as much mine as were it in my pocket, in my home safe or stuffed in my mattress.

I will treat any attempt to take it as I would a thief breaking down my door in the middle of the night.

WITH DEADLY FORCE!


You won't be given that opportunity. Your saving will be stolen with click of a mouse.
81 posted on 11/27/2012 1:49:39 PM PST by khelus
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To: Perseverando

Obamanation Communism File.


82 posted on 11/27/2012 1:50:46 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Perseverando

bkmk


83 posted on 11/27/2012 1:52:52 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: taildragger
hand it off to another generation

I think this is the biggest thing the left hates, viscerally, and without a conscious thought to it.

Because, it's something that God says is righteous behavior:
Prov 13:22 A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children, but the sinner's wealth is laid up for the righteous.

84 posted on 11/27/2012 1:55:23 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Future Snake Eater

He may be more flexible, but it may be to the point that his head will be firmly implanted between his cheeks with his body intact.


85 posted on 11/27/2012 2:15:05 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (0 bummer inherited a worse economy in 2012 than he did in 2008.)
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To: SatinDoll

You must be a prophet. At least for your own finances. Good move!

I don’t have a lot but what I do have is in a credit union. My wife wants to take most all of it and bury it in the backyard. Seriously. You can’t be robbed or burgled from something that ain’t in the house.


86 posted on 11/27/2012 2:19:13 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: The Working Man
Interesting. Total US retirement assets more than equal the entire US National Debt(as conventionally described). Too tempting for the bloodsuckers to resist. Eventually they will create a way to get it--guaranteed.
87 posted on 11/27/2012 2:53:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: OSHA

I’m with ya


88 posted on 11/27/2012 3:03:06 PM PST by Renegade
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To: MrB

10% kicks in below the age of 59 1/2


89 posted on 11/27/2012 3:07:04 PM PST by Renegade
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To: nothingnew
Without the accumulation of wealth and ownership of property, there is no freedom.
90 posted on 11/27/2012 3:10:51 PM PST by fuente
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To: Perseverando

LOL....

The takings clause don’t mean shit to these rotten tomatoes.

Neither does the 5th, 4th and 10 amendments.


91 posted on 11/27/2012 3:12:03 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad
How are you going to use deadly force against an electronic data transmission?

Nothing.

Now.

Which houses had which signs...?

WAR.

92 posted on 11/27/2012 3:52:02 PM PST by Gorzaloon (Have a nice Thousand-Year Reich.)
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To: Perseverando

I did the math and cleaned out one of my IRAs. It came to something like this:

If I wait until I’m old enough to withdraw without penalty, I will be VERY LUCKY to still be in the 25% bracket, simply because taxes WILL go up. But even if the bracket is still around, there is no way I’ll be in a lower (marginal) bracket at retirement. So the best that I could do when I retire is be in the same tax bracket - so the theory that you defer income while in a higher bracket while working, doesn’t hold for me (and it doesn’t hurt being in Texas, with no state income tax).

So next is the question of what tax rate will I pay on what I pull out. It winds up that most of my taxes (if not all, not sure) will be in the 25% and 28% brackets. So, still no big hit on my tax bracket.

Next is the 10% penalty. This one is annoying, but it’s a price you pay for freedom, and for having the money put to real work at zero risk (i.e., help pay off my house). So you pay it - unless you think you can make a hardship case to the IRS, which I can’t because I refused to take out subprime loans. So I lose the 10%, but I get that back in 3 years, as it pays down my mortgage.

So, in summary, if I had $100k in my account (which I didn’t, but it’s a round number), and I take it out now, I get ~$64k. If I wait until I’m old enough, then $75k. I don’t feel like waiting and I’ll get much of the difference back just by paying down my mortgage.

As to people that can’t stand paying all that money in taxes - well you have choices. You can save the tax money and watch your IRA turn into an annuity backed by our lovely government. In other words, pay them now or have them take it all.

The only regret was that I didn’t think of this earlier and take out the money a bit slower - but that’s water under the bridge now.


93 posted on 11/27/2012 4:40:37 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: MrB

no just over 59 1/2 is all it takes


94 posted on 11/27/2012 5:00:37 PM PST by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: wny
if they try this, DC should be burned to the ground

I've resisted the temptation to go full Let it Burn, yet. I'm definitely getting there. This, would do it. March and start burning it. Screw law enforcement. Enough people and we raze it to the ground.
95 posted on 11/27/2012 5:08:00 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: Perseverando
What about 401(k) funds invested in stocks? Won't this kill the private sector if suddenly all the equity in corporations is confiscated?

-PJ

96 posted on 11/27/2012 5:23:01 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: 98ZJ USMC

Can one of you guys help me with this? When I read it, all is see is that they intend to make a mandatory contribution to treasuries GOING FORWARD. I didn’t see the line where they are going to confiscate CURRENT 401k’s and mandatory convert them into treasuries or give them to someone else. Of course, I don’t like them doing ANYTHING with my money at all, but are we getting revved up over something that isn’t in the works yet? I mean, sure, I can see them saying that 3% of all future contributions must be in treasuries (and I hate it) but I haven’t seen anything yet. Thooughts?


97 posted on 11/27/2012 5:24:50 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: 98ZJ USMC

Can one of you guys help me with this? When I read it, all is see is that they intend to make a mandatory contribution to treasuries GOING FORWARD. I didn’t see the line where they are going to confiscate CURRENT 401k’s and mandatory convert them into treasuries or give them to someone else. Of course, I don’t like them doing ANYTHING with my money at all, but are we getting revved up over something that isn’t in the works yet? I mean, sure, I can see them saying that 3% of all future contributions must be in treasuries (and I hate it) but I haven’t seen anything yet. Thoughts?


98 posted on 11/27/2012 5:25:06 PM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: bestintxas

What seems to be a lot of money on paper, would soon be cut by more than half due to taxes. Besides, I have economical tastes.

Gold is dumb as a box of hammers. I am a capitalist at heart and prefer to invest in business. Where would I put it?


99 posted on 11/27/2012 5:36:37 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Dr. Pritchett
Of course, I don’t like them doing ANYTHING with my money at all, but are we getting revved up over something that isn’t in the works yet?

That is my take on it. On a scale of of 0 to 10 the threat level is near zero for a change in tax treatment for retirement accounts while the republicans have the house.

100 posted on 11/27/2012 5:58:50 PM PST by EVO X
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