Unrest in Egypt: Islamists Vow Demonstrations in Support of Morsi

Der Spiegel ^ | 11/28/2012 | Raniah Salloum

[Olog-hai]

Egyptian President Muhammed Morsi seems unshaken by the massive protests that shook Cairo on Tuesday night. He has shown no interest in retreating from his recent power grab and the Islamist group Muslim Brotherhood is planning to hold even larger pro-Morsi demonstrations on Friday. …

As such, the Muslim Brotherhood seems determined to pursue a course of confrontation. “The opposition thinks that the meaning of Tuesday lies in the number of protesters, 200,000 to 300,000,” one Brotherhood tweet said. “But it should brace itself for the millions who will take to the streets for the new president!” A new date has not been set for the Brotherhood’s demonstration, which had originally been planned for Tuesday.

The Brotherhood reiterates that even if Morsi only won the election by a slim margin, he won it all the same. They also insist that the make-up of the constitutional assembly mirrors that of the elected parliament, which a court dissolved in June. …

[allendale]

Morsi is establishing an Islamic government, similar but not identical to Iran. Unlike Iran he does not control an armed revolutionary force to compete with and ultimately dominate the army. The Egyptian army is still a very powerful force that Morsi does not now control. However the army does not have the power or strength to depose Morsi. If the generals tried there would be a bloodbath. Eventually Morsi will have control of the military. The billions the US is giving them is wasted money.The Egyptian economy is so bad that Morsi will be shaking down the Saudis to finance Egypt and its armed forces. Lot of trouble ahead.

[FlyingEagle]

It will take a century or more for Egypt to recover from this madness, probably 3 to 4 generations at least. That is, if they do ever recover.

I think it is way past time to start the political discussion about Post-Islamicism, and what does it take to make that happen on the world stage, to have Islamicism removed from being a political power in governance. The destruction it causes on a world scale is immense.

[Olog-hai]

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Unlike Iran he does not control an armed revolutionary force to compete with and ultimately dominate the army. The Egyptian army is still a very powerful force that Morsi does not now control

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But he does control them. Forgot about him firing the generals that opposed him and replacing them with generals loyal to the Muslim Brotherhood?

On top of that, he has Hamas, which is an outgrowth of the Brotherhood.

He would not have made this power grab without being confident that he could maintain it.

[allendale]

Very much doubt he has full control after firing some generals. He still has layers of generals, colonels, majors and even junior officers that he needs to purge to really control the army. That purge will come and largely go unnoticed by the Western media. However the big danger here is if Morsi patiently consolidates power and takes a page out of Nasser’s book. Remember “The United Arab Republic”. A secular/socialist inspired political union of Egypt, Syria and Libya that eventually crumbled. When the dust settles from the “Arab Spring”, it will become evident that the Islamist parties will dominate in all three countries. What could the West do if there were plebiscites in those countries forming a new “United Islamic Republic” were formed? It would be populous and have the oil money to establish a political model very similar to Iran. Such a union would do little to alleviate the backwardness and poverty of the masses,would probably eventually fall apart but it could be a dangerous entity in a very unstable area and give the Arabs confidence to again war with Israel..

[Olog-hai]

The recent UN vote will increase their confidence. And once Iran gets the bomb, their confidence will be infinite.

There is no opposition now in the army. There was little to none even before Morsi was elected, or else the Muslim Brotherhood would have not gotten anywhere in the election.

[Katechon]

But the Muslim Brotherhood is a HUGE organization. It's a pan-islamic organization, established as a secret society with a paramilitary arm, born in 1928. I just wrote a post about it here.

The MB has been building factions in Egypt -- and over the globe -- for generations. It is not going anywhere and has probably infiltrated the Army. Morsi is purging the Generals that have not sweat allegiance to the MB.

Allende is right. It will become an Islamic Republic.

In fact the regime of the ayatollahs in Iran grew out of a secret society called the Devotees of Islam (فدائیان اسلام), a Muslim Brotherhood affiliate whose founder and leader in the 1950s, Sayyid Navab Safavi, was a close associate of Ruhollah Mostafavi Musavi Khomeini.

Khomeini, Navab Safavi and the flag of the Devotees, فدائیان اسلام

Navab Safavi founded the Devotees of Islam in 1946.

Chart of the Devotees of Islam, handwritten by Navvab Safavi

== I'm compiling data here.

[Olog-hai]

All correct, and what is sad is that all of this should be common knowledge. How quickly the world forgot about how the Brotherhood openly fought against Israel in 1948. The Islamic Revolution in Iran is one of the MB’s first colossal victories, even with the Sunni/Shi’a divide, and of course helped along by US liberals.

Notice that look of hate and evil in their eyes, in those photos. I always see something demonic in looks like that; don’t know about anyone else.

[Katechon]

You are spot-on about the evil eyes. It's demonic, satanic. allah is satan, and muhammad was his messeger. 666 years after Christ, or something.

Just look at those founding members of the Devotees (Iran)

I think the Sunni-Shiite faultline is important, but mostly because it is used by clerics to mobilize.

The MB as an organization is more important.

The Shiite-Sunni divide is ideological, and ideologies do not exist. But pledges of allegience, networks, events, are real. The MB is real.

[Joe Boucher]

Morsi wants to shove islam up the egyptians ass the same way obammy wants to shove it up Americans,
Well I ain’t buying that gutter “religion crap”

[rightwingintelligentsia]

I wonder if Anderson Cooper will fly to Egypt to cover the festivities this time.

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