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VCU volleyball coach James Finley says he was fired because he is gay; team finished 25-6
Associated Press, ^ | November 30, 2012

Posted on 11/30/2012 7:15:31 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

RICHMOND, Va. — VCU women’s volleyball coach James Finley is fighting to get his job back after he says he was fired because he is gay.

Finley, 52, has filed a complaint with VCU’s Office for Institutional Equity. University spokesperson Pamela D. Lepley said an investigation is being conducted and must be completed within 45 days.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: athletics; coach; finley; fired; gays; homosexualagenda; vcu; volleyball
“My husband and I were talking about it, and we can’t just walk away.” So, he is the wife?
1 posted on 11/30/2012 7:15:40 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

What does him being happy have to do with him getting fired?


2 posted on 11/30/2012 7:17:40 PM PST by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I just don’t believe this.

He is playing thr Fag card.


3 posted on 11/30/2012 7:19:55 PM PST by Venturer
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To: ConservativeStatement
Why would he be gay about being fired?

I'm thinking he should be glum.

4 posted on 11/30/2012 7:20:13 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

lol.

Was his contract over?

VCU... Virginia CHRISTIAN University?


5 posted on 11/30/2012 7:20:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Virginia Commonwealth University.


6 posted on 11/30/2012 7:21:16 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: GeronL

25-6 and he’s fired? That’s B.S. Hope the school gets hit hard. That is not a firing offense.


7 posted on 11/30/2012 7:21:47 PM PST by muwarriors92
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To: gop4lyf

Mayhap he was too happy. ;-)


8 posted on 11/30/2012 7:22:03 PM PST by doc1019 (Women have a choice, unborn babies don't.)
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To: GeronL

Contract expires December 31.


9 posted on 11/30/2012 7:22:52 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: ConservativeStatement
The sex pervert’s contract is not being renewed because the AD and the university want a better coach and a better program. It's not about his sexual proclivities, disgusting as they are.
10 posted on 11/30/2012 7:23:43 PM PST by twister881
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To: muwarriors92

let him go when the contract is over


11 posted on 11/30/2012 7:24:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ConservativeStatement
His overall record is 151 - 116, good, but not really outstanding.

“I have felt completely not a part of the thing that I love,” Finley said. “For one person to do that, and to meet with me for the first time and to tell me I’m not a good representative of the university — somebody that doesn’t even know me because he’s never made an effort to get to know me — there’s no other conclusion that I can come to other than that he just doesn’t want a gay person representing his athletic department.”

From his attributed quotes in the article, it appears that the poor dears "feelings" are hurt.
Hell hath no fury...and all that.

12 posted on 11/30/2012 7:25:44 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Well there would be some discussion as who their legs in the air but I digress....the girls must be heartbroken, not only do they lose a volleyball coach but a hair and couture consultant.


13 posted on 11/30/2012 7:26:02 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (It's not racism..... it's probability, actuarial tables, statistics. Facts are stubborn things.)
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To: hatfieldmccoy

has their legs in the air (geez)


14 posted on 11/30/2012 7:27:39 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (It's not racism..... it's probability, actuarial tables, statistics. Facts are stubborn things.)
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To: GeronL

It’s one thing to not renew him when his contract is up, but it looks baffling to some of us that have been in athletic administration at the DI level for a long time (I spent almost ten years at a Big Ten and Big East schools in Intercollegiate Athletics).

The school doesn’t look good in this considering the guy’s record this year. I would like to know what his career record was at the school.


15 posted on 11/30/2012 7:29:50 PM PST by muwarriors92
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16 posted on 11/30/2012 7:30:11 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: muwarriors92
That is not a firing offense.

Says who?

Before the far left began to rewrite all rules, it certainly was.

17 posted on 11/30/2012 7:31:53 PM PST by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: muwarriors92

http://vcuathletics.tv/vb_coaches.php


18 posted on 11/30/2012 7:31:53 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Prior post is out-dated info.

http://www.vcuathletics.com/information/directory/bios/james_finley


19 posted on 11/30/2012 7:33:26 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: muwarriors92

Maybe its like the way publik skoolz would quietly get rid of teachers who sexually abused kids by transferring them to another school system and city. Happened all the time, probaably still happening.

There could be a lot of problems with this guy that has nothing to do with the scores.


20 posted on 11/30/2012 7:34:29 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: muwarriors92

Do us a favor and take your pro-fag crap somewhere else. This guy is sick in the body and mind.


21 posted on 11/30/2012 7:34:34 PM PST by ohioman
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To: gop4lyf

What if he was black or white or a golfer or a tea pot collector or a Nascar fan? Just WTF?


22 posted on 11/30/2012 7:36:52 PM PST by jaz.357 (Welcome to hell. Here's your accordion.)
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To: muwarriors92

“It’s one thing to not renew him when his contract is up”

According to CNN that’s exactly what they did. They told him they were not going to renew his contract.

Before this really good year, his record was 126-106. The school wanted to go in a new direction.


23 posted on 11/30/2012 7:36:52 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Chances are, his replacement will be a lesbian.


24 posted on 11/30/2012 7:36:52 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: gop4lyf
What does him being happy have to do with him getting fired?

I know??? That is really a queer twist to this story, isn't it?

25 posted on 11/30/2012 7:39:30 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: Venturer

The last paragraph of his bio on VCU’s web site:

Finley earned a degree in range science from Sul Ross State University in Alpine, Texas in 1983. He has one son, 30-year-old Carlton, who resides in Richmond and works at Richmond Ford. Finley and John Sternlicht were married in 2010 and reside in Richmond with John’s youngest son Jeremy. John’s other son David graduated from Washington and Lee in 2011 and resides in Arlington, Va.

http://www.vcuathletics.com/information/directory/bios/james_finley


26 posted on 11/30/2012 7:40:00 PM PST by ConservativeStatement (Having an abortion is "progressive"?)
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To: BenLurkin

If this couldn't cure him, nothing will.

27 posted on 11/30/2012 7:45:19 PM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: muwarriors92

>> 25-6 and he’s fired? That’s B.S. Hope the school gets hit hard. That is not a firing offense.

So you believe the coach is being persecuted? And you’re familiar with the circumstances that led to non-renewal?


28 posted on 11/30/2012 7:48:16 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

>>So, he is the wife?<<

He not the spiker, he the spikee.


29 posted on 11/30/2012 7:48:47 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: ConservativeStatement

He is claiming to be married. But the Commonwealth does not recognize same sex marriage. Maybe the school has had to deal with issues with this person challenging everything all the time. Better to be rid of a person who would rather live by the laws of say Massachusetts.


30 posted on 11/30/2012 8:00:37 PM PST by petitfour
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To: muwarriors92

“That is not a firing offense.”

Misleading headline. His contract was not renewed. That is not ‘being fired.’


31 posted on 11/30/2012 8:05:21 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: ConservativeStatement
Let this be a lesson to Virginia Commonwealth University. You cannot fire a member of a victim group without risking a discrimination lawsuit.

Keep that in mind when you hire new employees.

32 posted on 11/30/2012 8:50:17 PM PST by TChad
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To: TChad
I suppose that my comment above might come back to haunt me, but screw it. I dislike living in a leftist society that lacks a widely shared sense of the humanity of individuals. Leftists see no individuals, only oppressors and victims. Their chosen oppressors are rarely oppressors, and their chosen victims are rarely victims. As one of the non-oppressors I'd like a little payback for being falsely accused.

It is remotely possible that the volleyball coach was fired just for being homosexual, but in almost all of these "Some bad thing happened JUST BECAUSE HE WAS GAY!" stories, Matthew Shepard etc., the facts fail to support the allegation.

Whether this guy's story is true or false, VCU's insurers will probably have to shell out tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars to pay him off. This is just the 2012 reality, and employers fail to take note of it at their peril.

I would prefer to live in a society of individuals, not members of oppressor/victim groups, where firing a gay man would pose no more risk to a business than firing a straight man. I don't live in such a society.

33 posted on 11/30/2012 10:46:02 PM PST by TChad
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To: ConservativeStatement

it embraces diversity, and how it always made the coach, his husband, John Sternlicht, and their three sons feel “welcome, not tolerated.”

That is just SICK!
Ever notice how these old perverts alwasy have male children?


34 posted on 11/30/2012 10:52:21 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: muwarriors92

25-6 and he’s fired? That’s B.S. Hope the school gets hit hard. That is not a firing offense

Really? Ask Alex Smith of the 49er’s about that!


35 posted on 11/30/2012 10:54:27 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: muwarriors92

25-6 and he’s fired? That’s B.S. Hope the school gets hit hard. That is not a firing offense

Really? Ask Alex Smith of the 49er’s about that!


36 posted on 11/30/2012 10:56:24 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“My husband and I were talking about it, and we can’t just walk away.” So, he is the wife?


I was in my early fifties before I was aware of what “gay” sex was all about. Now we have to know the difference between a gay husband and a gay wife? This is getting too complicated.
I know, that is what being busy with a respectable career and family will do to you. You don’t have time to explore the alternatives. Yuk!


37 posted on 11/30/2012 11:33:26 PM PST by bytesmith
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To: icwhatudo

If this couldn’t cure him, nothing will.


LOL! I think a straight man may lose concentration coaching so many pretty gals.


38 posted on 12/01/2012 7:07:38 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: BenLurkin

Chances are, his replacement will be a lesbian.


And do not be surprised that it is...

Not sure if his sexuality is the reason for his non-renewal...but I suspect that his gender may be the real reason

Guaranteed if this was a lesbian, she would have been offered a new contract after a 25-6 season and overall record

One of the biggest issues in womens sports is that the “Lesbian Left” does not want men coaching the womnen’s college teams. This has been an issue in college basketball for years, and it is also in other womens sports


39 posted on 12/01/2012 7:14:17 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Illegal Aliens do not pay Social Security...Employers do)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

Alex Smith wasn’t fired, he still has a job and is earning his paycheck. I see no comparison at all to your analogy.


40 posted on 12/01/2012 11:00:53 AM PST by muwarriors92
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To: Old Landmarks

How is being gay, or black, or straight, or blonde, or any other trait about someone a firing offense?

He is a volleyball coach who is supposed to win volleyball games, graduate players, etc. As long as he isn’t doing anything that forces his lifestyle on someone then no way he should be fired.

Look, if he was Christian and a volleyball coach and fired for that we would all be going crazy..rightly so. There is no difference.

You wonder why we keep losing elections.


41 posted on 12/01/2012 11:03:49 AM PST by muwarriors92
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To: ohioman

It has nothing to do with being “pro-fag” as you state. It’s not my lifestyle and I wouldn’t choose it for anyone else. That being said, I believe someone’s faith, lifestyle, color of their skin, etc should not get in the way of one’s ability to do their craft and certainly not be the reason one is employed or not.

I also don’t believe being homosexual is a chosen way to go. They’re attracted to the same sex, just like you and I are attracted to the opposite sex. It is how they are wired.


42 posted on 12/01/2012 11:40:02 AM PST by muwarriors92
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To: muwarriors92

And I should not be forced to employ these evolutionary dead enders, whose only defective wiring lies in their head.


43 posted on 12/02/2012 8:25:49 PM PST by ohioman
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To: muwarriors92
You wonder why we keep losing elections.

No, I have never wondered why a Marxist who encourages and promotes the worst kinds of sin would inevitably be elected, nor have I wondered why good is called evil and evil is called good.

Radical's use of the government to allow the importation of a foreign country (ready to be propagandized) while wholesale indoctrination of all children away from the social views of their parent's have inevitably led to the election of men like Barney Frank as well as the Marxist.

My only wonder is why those who have insisted upon eroding and compromising our principles could not see where it would lead. The strong conservatives were right and sounded the warning for decades, all the while being labeled as scaremongers.

44 posted on 12/03/2012 7:40:10 PM PST by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

My whole feeling is this: Given the details available, the fact that this guy resorts to making the sexuality excuse is downright despicable. The records of this guy wouldn’t look great in any normal circumstance as a coach, so how about, not have the contract renewed, and learn a little bit on how to be a better coach. This is flat-out laziness and narcissism at it’s best. At least quit making excuses about why people won’t indefinitely like you, unconditionally, and then just find ways to improve your coaching, like most people do.


45 posted on 12/04/2012 6:55:55 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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