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To: Ohioan

I am looking forward to reading your comments.

I think it is time for whites and Indians to leave South Africa for good.


10 posted on 12/01/2012 11:58:21 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Maine Mariner
I think it is time for whites and Indians to leave South Africa for good.

There are many countries who could use their talents, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and of course, the United States of America!

12 posted on 12/01/2012 12:00:26 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Maine Mariner; muawiyah; Bon of Babble; mrsmel
The Reuters article, shows an absurd lack of understanding of South African agriculture, races & history. The best way to understand the White farmers in South Africa is to study American pioneer history. While mostly of 17th Century Dutch & Huguenot settler stocks, the White development of agriculture in South Africa paralleled very closely, in time what happened here. The closest parallel to the American settlement experience in the world, is the South African.

For example, in the late 18th & early 19th Centuries, both nationals crossed the mountain ranges near the coast in Conestoga type wagons, going into the largely unknown interiors, armed with long rifles, their Bibles & what refinements they could carry in that fashion. One driving through the South African countryside in the 1960s, would encounter the most significant difference. Whereas we have largely forgotten the significance of a pioneer history, every South African dorp (town), I visited, appeared to have its own pioneer monument, with images of what looked like Kentucky "long-riflemen" being celebrated.

To understand the vulnerability of the Afrikaner farmer to brigandry, today, you have to understand that because of a dryer climate, the family farms tended to be quite large, to be practical. This coupled with a pioneer love of space, meant that the homes were very spread out--Arthur Conan Doyle makes a point about this in his History of The Great Boer War;--a point from the British viewpoint.

By contrast, the various Bantu nations--and they clearly are diverse nations--grouped their tribal housing in close-together patterns, surrounded by large tracts of virtually undeveloped tribal lands. The most striking aspect of Bantu "farming," if you can call it that, when I traveled around South Africa in 1966, was that they did not fence their livestock off the road. One had to be constantly on guard, as one came around a curve, not to run into someone's livestock.

Only an idiot--I know everyone at Reuters is not an idiot--but only an idiot would expect Bantu agriculture to be on a par with American or Afrikaner agriculture. (The linkage is intentional.) This is not intended as an insult to anyone. The Bantu have different values, different priorities.

On the subject of Aparthied, let me refer you to the section on "Apartheid Revisited," in the Chapter on Perspective & Focus, in the online version of my Conservative Debate Handbook. The vicious misrepresentation of Apartheid by the Academic & Media Lefts has not been motivated by any true altruism. On the contrary, it reflects the compulsion of those seeking to force all Mankind into some form of one-world order.

It is interesting, although the Left would never admit to the fact, that the Great Society types actually adopted part of the Apartheid program in America, to encourage job creation in the inner cities here. I forget what they called it; but it was the same as the National Party was pursuing with respect to the Bantu homelands in South Africa.

William Flax

60 posted on 12/03/2012 10:57:14 AM PST by Ohioan
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