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So Long to ‘The Big E’(inactivated today)
PJ Media ^ | 12-1-2012 | Rick Moran

Posted on 12/01/2012 7:09:10 PM PST by smoothsailing

December 1, 2012

So Long to ‘The Big E’

Rick Moran

For five decades, the nuclear powered aircraft carrier Enterprise plowed the seven seas to protect the freedoms of American citizens and guarantee freedom of the seas for all. From the Cuban missile crisis through its participation in conflicts arising out of the 9/11 attacks, “The Big ‘E’” was the tip of the spear of American foreign policy.

Today, in front of 12,000 former crew, their families, and friends, the United States Navy formally retired Enterprise from active service.

Reuters:

The 1,123-foot (342-metres) long Enterprise was commissioned in 1961 with eight nuclear reactors on board, and the next year was deployed to participate in a blockade of Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Since then, it has played a role in a number of naval missions, including deployments to Vietnam and to the Middle East as part of the U.S. response to the September 11, 2001, attacks. It returned from its final deployment about a month ago, said Navy spokesman Mike Maus.

Nicknamed the “Big E,” the Enterprise was the oldest active duty ship in the U.S. Naval fleet, according to the military, and was the eighth U.S. military ship to bear the name Enterprise.

The roughly 12,000 people who participated in the ceremony for the USS Enterprise include many former crew members and their friends, Maus said. The ceremony was held in Virginia at Naval Station Norfolk.

The Enterprise will stay at Naval Station Norfolk for several months and then will move to a shipyard in nearby Newport News, Virginia, where its nuclear fuel will be removed from the vessel, Maus said.

After that, the ship will be towed to the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Washington state, where its nuclear reactors will be dismantled and the Enterprise will be scrapped, Maus said.

There are no plans to turn the Enterprise into a museum, as has been done with other historic warships.

The Navy said in a statement that inactivation and defueling of the Enterprise will have “major impacts on the structure of the ship” and that it would be too costly to “return the ship to a condition that would support it becoming a museum.”

Even today, Enterprise was an impressive weapon of war. Its 8 nuclear reactors powered the ship to speeds up to 34 knots. It carried a crew of 5,000 seamen and airmen and up to 90 aircraft. It was the longest naval vessel in the world in its time, displacing nearly 95,000 tons — a truly fearsome manifestation of American power.

Enterprise
was the second oldest commissioned warship in the US Navy, superseded only by the three masted frigate Constitution. She and her crew have much to be proud having served this nation with honor and courage for so long.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cvn65; usnavy; ussenterprise
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USS Bainbridge, USS Long Beach and the USS Enterprise-circa 1964

1 posted on 12/01/2012 7:09:15 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Interesting. The Navy dumps a ship only 50 years old but yet the Air Force is still flying B-52’s that some grand son of the first pilot is flying it.


2 posted on 12/01/2012 7:12:27 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: jazusamo

Back in the days before they started naming ships after John Murtha and Cesar Chavez.


3 posted on 12/01/2012 7:14:18 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: SkyDancer

One of my boys was Sailor of the Year on the Big E.


4 posted on 12/01/2012 7:15:58 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadows of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: SkyDancer

There was an old, old interservice rivalry joke about a sailor bragging about the Navy building a ship so big they were going to have to widen the ocean to sail it. An airman topped it by bragging about a new bomber so big they were going to have to import atmosphere from Mars to fly it.


5 posted on 12/01/2012 7:17:13 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: smoothsailing

Thank You for sharing that!

The USS Enterprise was too huge to dock in Boston’s Inner harbor, but 50 years ago she was anchored off shore out among the Harbor islands. My Dad, a Navy Vet of WW2 and Korea, put all of us kids in a boat and went out to “See The Enterprise”. We navigated up as close as was safe and were AWED by that magnificent ship. I will never forget the sight.

Dad passed away a year ago, and I wonderful memories of his love for the Navy and for America.


6 posted on 12/01/2012 7:17:56 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: SkyDancer

I don’t know what the whole story is, but I will admit to having thoughts somewhat similar to yours.

Is this truly a ship that was overdue to be retired, or was this simply a convenient excuse to get the ball rolling toward what Obama would love to do, leave us with perhaps one carrier group, if that.


7 posted on 12/01/2012 7:18:12 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Kudos to the both of you... Very cool.


8 posted on 12/01/2012 7:18:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Good for him.

I’ll bet the wonderful Parents that raised him had a whole lot to do with it.


9 posted on 12/01/2012 7:20:10 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (As they say in China, erections have consequences...)
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To: SkyDancer

An airplane is not a ship in seawater.

After 50 years at sea....she’s done well. Time for her to be retired.


10 posted on 12/01/2012 7:20:34 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: smoothsailing

I’ve always loved that photo since I was a kid and saw it in an encyclopedia. I eventually became a submarine nuc, but seeing those three nuclear powered surface ships running together was inspiring.


11 posted on 12/01/2012 7:21:59 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: SkyDancer

I was born well before the B-52 ever got airborne and I’ll be long gone before the last of those BUFF birds are finally grounded.


12 posted on 12/01/2012 7:25:09 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Ouderkirk

Yeah I guess. Hate to see her go though.


13 posted on 12/01/2012 7:26:30 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: DoughtyOne

After 50 years in salt water maybe some sailor just for fun poked at her side below deck and saw water come in from where he poked and said “Hey! Lookie here!”


14 posted on 12/01/2012 7:28:06 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

LOL!!!!


15 posted on 12/01/2012 7:28:41 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Bryanw92

Same here, it’s always been one of my favorites. :)


16 posted on 12/01/2012 7:30:20 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: Coldwater Creek

Congratulations on that. I think I remember you telling me that a while back on a different but kinda equal posting.


17 posted on 12/01/2012 7:32:05 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer
They don't build 'em like they used to.

USS Constitution

18 posted on 12/01/2012 7:32:48 PM PST by Errant
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To: SkyDancer

Well, something along those lines may be the answer.

Refitting seems like a better cost advantage than a new unit, but as you point out, 50 years is a long time.


19 posted on 12/01/2012 7:32:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Hurricane Sandy..., a week later and over 60 million Americans still didn't have power.)
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To: smoothsailing

I think I read that they’ll be flying well into the 2020’s and beyond. It’s a great platform. I read where one, just one B-52 carried the same bomb load as a squadron of B-17’s or something like that.


20 posted on 12/01/2012 7:34:10 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

The practice of naming ships after presidents needs to end. The next flattop should be another Enterprise. Then every carrier after that should rturn to being named after revolutionary war battles.

Enough of the memorials to fat farting potentates that everyone wants to forget anyway.


21 posted on 12/01/2012 7:34:38 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: left that other site

What a wonderful experience that must have been! Good for your Dad! :)


22 posted on 12/01/2012 7:35:00 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: DesertRhino

Right - the the submarine named after Jimmah Carter? The USS Peanut????


23 posted on 12/01/2012 7:38:02 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: smoothsailing

he also took us to The Battleship Massachusetts, a bunch of WW2 Ships in mothballs , and a submarine!

he was SUCH a cool guy!


24 posted on 12/01/2012 7:38:55 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: DesertRhino

I’m a big fan of WWII Pacific naval battles. Bring back names like “The Bunker Hill”, etc. Although I think the Ben Franklin was a good name for that carrier. But there was the Yorktown too. But politicians as they are will name things after themselves. Wish the Navy had a septic system tanker they could name “The Obama” ....


25 posted on 12/01/2012 7:41:07 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Errant

Wow! that picture evoked a memory too! :-)


26 posted on 12/01/2012 7:41:58 PM PST by left that other site (Worry is the Darkroom that Develops Negatives.)
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To: SkyDancer

Yep,, and the USS Obama will come before he even leaves office. Reagan deserved it. But it’s time this practice stopped until we have a Saratoga, a Yorkown, a Constitution, and Enterprise, etc.

Our personality cult of the presidency is beginning to suck.


27 posted on 12/01/2012 7:46:07 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

Agree! Make the Reagan the last one only because he brought back the Navy that Carter decimated during his term.


28 posted on 12/01/2012 7:47:38 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: DesertRhino; SkyDancer
Navy Secretary Ray Mabus, in a video played towards the end of the ceremony, announced that CVN 80, third ship of the new GERALD R. FORD-class carriers, will be named ENTERPRISE, thus becoming the ninth American naval ship to bear the name.


A graphic showing what the future USS ENTERPRISE (CVN 80) is expected to look like when she joins the fleet after 2025. The aircraft are F-35C Lighting II Joint Strike Fighters, F/A-18 E and F Super Hornet strike fighters, E-2D Hawkeye electronic warfare planes, and an unmanned strike jet modeled on the X-47B sitting on the No. 4 catapult. (U.S. Navy)

29 posted on 12/01/2012 7:51:09 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
Oh, how I would love to navigate this big azz from Nofuk to Seeasstle.

Maybe go around the Cape for fun!

30 posted on 12/01/2012 7:52:27 PM PST by jungleboy
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To: smoothsailing

A new ENTERPRISE... that is cool


31 posted on 12/01/2012 7:52:49 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: smoothsailing

Yea!!!!!


32 posted on 12/01/2012 7:53:36 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

And Franklin getting a carrier was great! And it was 150 years after his era. It was clearly named after him because he deserved it, and not as an honor bestowed to help ensure the ship project never met with a budget cut.

The USS GHW Bush was ordered the week George W Bush was sworn in. Does anyone believe thats a coincidence? And i know he was a pilot. But as a president he was clueless. Would the American people of 150 years hence look back, and think of him the way people in 1941 thought of Franklin? I doubt it.


33 posted on 12/01/2012 7:54:17 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SkyDancer

Build a bigger better Enterprise CV-6b


34 posted on 12/01/2012 7:55:54 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: DesertRhino

I read about the sea battle where the Franklin was hit over and over again with those Kamakasi planes. Although I’m a bit clueless over naming one carrier the Wasp (it was sunk). What was that all about?


35 posted on 12/01/2012 7:56:44 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: DesertRhino
The practice of naming ships after presidents needs to end. The next flattop should be another Enterprise. Then every carrier after that should rturn to being named after revolutionary war battles.

The next three CVNs have been named:

CVN-78 will be the USS Gerald R. Ford.

CVN-79 will be the USS John F. Kennedy.

CVN-80 will be ... the USS ENTERPRISE.

This last per the Secretary of the Navy speaking via video at the inactivation ceremony this afternoon. He said he couldn't stop CVN-65s retirement, but he could ensure that her legacy and the legacy of all previous Enterprises lived on. CVN-80 is slated for commissioning in 2025, to replace the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69)
36 posted on 12/01/2012 7:57:48 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: smoothsailing

Thats good news! Just hope it survives the Obama vendetta and actually gets built.


37 posted on 12/01/2012 7:57:48 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Hopefully some jerk politician won’t cancel the funds for it. We have to be nice to the world and not be so militaristic. /sarc


38 posted on 12/01/2012 7:58:18 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: left that other site

Here’s a link to an excellent article about the Enterprise ceremony today. Bunch of nifty pics and info!

http://blogs.defensenews.com/intercepts/2012/12/carrier-enterprise-cvn-65-leaves-the-fleet-but-the-name-lives-on/


39 posted on 12/01/2012 7:59:01 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
A graphic showing what the future USS ENTERPRISE (CVN 80) is expected to look like when she joins the fleet after 2025.

Hopefully she won't be carrying the first carrier Hornet's service number on her bow. ;-)
40 posted on 12/01/2012 8:00:31 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: SkyDancer

Wasp was taken from a USN ship dating back to around 1800. Not sure of the exact story without a trip to wikipedia.


41 posted on 12/01/2012 8:01:28 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SkyDancer

The destroyer my Dad sailed on circa 1946, The Leonard F. Mason, was sold to the Taiwan navy after Vietnam and then sunk to make a reef.


42 posted on 12/01/2012 8:04:49 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: DesertRhino

Ya, I guess I could have done that. Getting a bit lazy. LOL


43 posted on 12/01/2012 8:07:15 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer
I read about the sea battle where the Franklin was hit over and over again with those Kamakasi planes. Although I’m a bit clueless over naming one carrier the Wasp (it was sunk). What was that all about?

Franklin was the most damaged carrier to ever survive and be restored to service-worthy condition. However she never reentered full-service. The war ended and she was extraneous. Like her similarly damaged sister Bunker Hill she was retained post-war for possible conversion into what was called the "Ultimate Essex" configuration (which would have been similar to the SCB mods many of her other sisters got - but apparently with a flush-deck configuration) and as a spare parts source (part of her forward flightdeck was removed and grafted onto the USS Valley Forge after the Valley Forge's flightdeck was damaged in a storm).

Another factor was probably the USN's somewhat superstitious reticence to put a ship that much death back into service.

As to the USS Wasp: the "Wasp" name is an honored one in USN service dating back to the Revolutionary war. Along the same lines as "Hornet". The first carrier Wasp (CV-7) was sunk by a submarine during the Guadalcanal campaign. Her name was bestowed upon the Essex-class CV-18. More recently the name adorns the leader of the LHD-1 class of amphibious assault ships - which has been the class where many of the more traditional USN names have been placed (along with some of the Aegis cruisers) while CVN's have been named after leaders and politicians.
44 posted on 12/01/2012 8:08:40 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: SkyDancer

“Although I’m a bit clueless over naming one carrier the Wasp (it was sunk). What was that all about?”

The Wasp was sunk in the latter parts of 1942 buy a Japanese submarine. Another carrier was commissioned as the Wasp maybe in early 1944. Not sure about the dates.

I will say I am proud to have served on the Enterprise as part of the air wing detachment with VF-96. The years were 1967 and 1968. I just missed the big fire in early January of 1969 as I was left behind because I was getting discharged from the Navy.


45 posted on 12/01/2012 8:14:10 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: tanknetter
What a disappointment, I was convinced the number 80 was in honor of Jerry Rice. ;-)
46 posted on 12/01/2012 8:16:17 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

This is sad. The Big E has been a wonderful mistress of the 7 seas for about as long as I can remember. Hopefully, she will be retired to a graceful, calm port, much like Old Ironsides has been in Boston.

Thank you sweet lady for all the men you served and from all those who walked your decks.

In the meantime, where are Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Uhuru, Checkov and the rest of the crew going to live??


47 posted on 12/01/2012 8:16:41 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: tanknetter; DesertRhino; zot

rename Ford as Lexington

Rename Kennedy as Saratoga

back space Bush to Wasp

back space Stennis to Ranger

If there is a Carter, rename as Hornet


48 posted on 12/01/2012 8:18:33 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: smoothsailing

In the years to come, our Navy is going to see huge problems. In order to keep the ship numbers up to present levels, our Navy has decided to build tons of littoral combat ships. LCS’s are death traps. They might be good for patrolling the Great Lakes, but not for much else. Assuming they get the bugs worked out, which is iffy at best, those ships can’t go anywhere on their own, because they need other ships around to protect them. That whole class of ships is a bad joke, and I believe the Navy has ordered up to 80 of them. I’d rather have 10 destroyers than 80 LCS’s.


49 posted on 12/01/2012 8:20:16 PM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: DesertRhino
The practice of naming ships after presidents needs to end. The next flattop should be another Enterprise. Then every carrier after that should rturn to being named after revolutionary war battles.

Enough of the memorials to fat farting potentates that everyone wants to forget anyway.

If I may add to your sentiment, I am of the opinion that ANYTHING built, bought or owned by the US government (aka taxpayers) should NOT be named after ANY politician. I am sick to death of these sleazebags putting their names on things that the taxpayers purchased!!

50 posted on 12/01/2012 8:22:07 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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