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Laughing Out Loud at Obama
Townhall.com ^ | December 2, 2012 | Charles Payne

Posted on 12/02/2012 7:43:22 AM PST by Kaslin

I read that Senator Mitch McConnell burst into laughter upon hearing Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner lay out President Obama's "Fiscal Cliff" plan. Here's the rub:

> $1.6 trillion in revenue
> $50.0 billion stimulus
> $400.0 billion in Medicare cuts

Unlike Susan Rice, who was sent in to fall on the administration's sword during the Benghazi cover up, Geithner isn't looking for his next government job. It makes him the perfect foil. He can actually go in with a straight face with a proposal so absurd that an old reserved guy like McConnell doubles over in hysterical disbelief. Some say this is how you begin negotiations, and they would be right if this were November 2011. The fiscal cliff countdown clock is a couple ticks from midnight.

We might all love a farce when viewed from afar, but a tempest in a teapot is dangerous when we all live in that teapot. So, when the administration keeps talking as if they think the GOP really wants what they want, then we should all feel sorry for ourselves.
As much as they routinely win the public relations war, their effort on this has been far from compromise and far from reality. The democrats keep tearing, but at least republicans have finally begun to move. For the general public, it's all the same - send in the clowns.

Yes, this is rich, because it's all going to make the nation poorer. Nonetheless, this is the path we are on. So, there will be some form of pain; some form of anti-free market pain that hurts the poorest Americans by limiting their future. This is the path chosen by a slight majority of people that never crunched the numbers, and more than finding or creating their own opportunities, agreed taking money from moderately successful citizens and small businesses is the path to glory. It will never be bliss, and no, I don't agree.

Still, there are lines that must be drawn. The opening salvo from Geithner would be laughable if not so goofy and ill-timed. Let's stop messing around. Here's what the White House will get:

* Extension of (ultra) long term unemployment benefits
* Extension of payroll tax holidays
* Taxes on carried interest

Here's what the White House will not get:

* $50.0 billion stimulus
* Higher taxes on small businesses
* Permanent end to debt ceiling

Framed!

The murkier part is where tax increases will begin. I think higher taxes are a giant mistake, and those that pay are already doling out more than their fair share. But, going down this road, I hope the line moves to $1.0 million. I also think mortgage interest deductions will be altered or tossed out along with charitable deductions but only with real reform to entitlements.

Real entitlement reform has to go into effect at the same time as tax hikes and defense spending cuts.

I must say, yesterday when I heard John Boenher mention "framework" for a plan to deal with a solution later, the hair on the back of my neck stood on end. That is a euphemism for kicking the can down the road. Obviously, that's a giant mistake. Problems don't stop mounting. Debt doesn't stop mounting. The real cliff that comes with us eventually forking over $1,000,000,000,000 a year in interest gets closer.

Gutless politicians on both sides have brought us to this point. Politicians are asking Americans to buy "framework," not knowing if eventually it will house a Caravaggio or velvet painting of card-playing dogs.

But where are the clowns - there ought to be clowns
Maybe next year

Impact of Buffett Tax

A new report says the fair share tax revenue supported by Warren Buffett would pull in only $8.0 billion a year. The chart is from JP Morgan says it all.


Gross Domestic Product

Officially, third quarter economic growth was revised higher to 2.7% from 2.0%.

I have to say, the headline number really masked an economy that is crawling along barely keeping its head above water. While it speaks to the resolve of the economy and underscores it's built to last already, beneath the surface the numbers were disturbing.

Inventories were much higher, revised from initial reading of $34.1 billion to $61.3 billion - good, but not likely to recur. In the mean time, real consumption was lowered to 1.4 from the original read of 2.0 and business investment in things like equipment and software is down substantially to -2.7% from unchanged. This was the lowest read on business investment since second quarter 2011 and down sequentially.

Inventory builds speak mostly to the auto market and made the difference in the overall revision. Economic trends that speak to the future were a major disappointment.


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To: Kaslin

I’ll do what I can, but I can only assume that we’ve passed the turning point.

No one is seriously discussing meaningful spending cuts.


21 posted on 12/02/2012 12:33:23 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: Kaslin

Charles Payne is one of the most brilliant and on-target analysts in the business. I try never to miss him on Fox and Fox Business. He may very well be the best I have ever seen and read. He nails this one exactly.


22 posted on 12/02/2012 2:20:40 PM PST by RichardW
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To: RichardW
Amen to that. Payne is the very best. I so admire him. He tells it like it is. Too bad his is virtually alone in the media. Rick Santelli is a close second but he is hampered by the overwhelming leftists on CNBC (Cramer, Sorkin, Quick, Quintanilla, Lee, Faber, and Hobbs to name but a few.)
23 posted on 12/02/2012 2:36:49 PM PST by brydic1
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To: All; WashingtonSource
Remember Alinsky Rule 5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It’s hard to counterattack ridicule, and it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.

I agree -it is something the useful idiots that elected 0b0z0 will understand.

ADDITIONALLY -I suggest that House Leadership Parrot EVERY 0b0z0 statement and comment about 'winning', 'mandates', and what 'the people want'. Take away the supposed majority mob advantage the marxist usurper falsely claims by repeating the idiot as a response to the idiot.

We are the House of Representative and the People have Spoken! We are a Republic -NOT a Royal Kingdom!

24 posted on 12/02/2012 5:11:19 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

-—— the People have Spoken!——

I would like to see the number of total Republican votes for elected House candidates to compare with the total Democrats vote for Obama.

I think more folks voted for Republican House members than voted for Obama

The House has the mandate of the people


25 posted on 12/02/2012 5:19:19 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: ILS21R
Mitch McConnell should stop laughing and start laying out the framework for impeachment.

That would be Boehner's job, since the articles of impeachment are the responsibility of the House of Representatives. The chances Boehner will ever have the backbone to do it are about the same as hell freezing over.

McConnell's job would be to bring it to trial in the Senate (once an actual impeachment has happened) but as we both know, Dingy Harry Reid runs the Senate so again, the chances of it ever happening are about the same as the House actually impeaching Obama (ie: when hell freezes over.)

26 posted on 12/02/2012 5:30:29 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ILS21R
Mitch McConnell should stop laughing and start laying out the framework for impeachment.

That would be Boehner's job, since the articles of impeachment are the responsibility of the House of Representatives. The chances Boehner will ever have the backbone to do it are about the same as hell freezing over.

McConnell's job would be to bring it to trial in the Senate (once an actual impeachment has happened) but as we both know, Dingy Harry Reid runs the Senate so again, the chances of it ever happening are about the same as the House actually impeaching Obama (ie: when hell freezes over.)

27 posted on 12/02/2012 5:30:39 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: FrankR
I still want Barky's "wedding ring" (he was wearing it before he got married) examined by two jewelers and a non-Moslem Arabic expert who knows Islam.

I want to know if Jerome Corsi's right, that there's an inscription in Arabic on that ring -- and what it says.

28 posted on 12/03/2012 12:56:51 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Hanoi toy, McCain's their boy. (Hat tip to FReeper |neverdem|.))
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To: usconservative
McConnell's job would be to bring it to trial in the Senate .....

No, the Senate trial, as in Clinton's case, would be presented (prosecuted) by the House impeachment managers (led by Henry Hyde of Illinois last time), and the Senate would be the jury -- bound to silence and to attendance during the entire proceeding. The presiding officer would be the Chief Justice.

I will take to my grave the feeling I got when Chief Justice Rehnquist, in his gold-trimmed robes that he designed himself, walked into the Senate chamber. It was something like awe, and a feeling of "this is history! I will never live long enough to see this happen again!" -- and a strong yearning for what someone called the Great Justice.

29 posted on 12/03/2012 1:10:28 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Hanoi toy, McCain's their boy. (Hat tip to FReeper |neverdem|.))
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To: lentulusgracchus
I will take to my grave the feeling I got when Chief Justice Rehnquist, in his gold-trimmed robes that he designed himself, walked into the Senate chamber. It was something like awe, and a feeling of "this is history! I will never live long enough to see this happen again!" -- and a strong yearning for what someone called the Great Justice.

And then Trent Lott trivalized the whole process...

30 posted on 12/03/2012 2:09:00 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-students-laugh-at-tim-geithner-2009-6

Chinese students laughed at Geithner in 2009.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/europes-response-geithners-advice-id-hear-how-united-states-will-reduce-its-deficits-and-its-de

the EU ridiculed Geithner in 2011

WTH took McConnell so long to laugh him out of the room?

Tim Geithner is the Eddie Haskell of finance


31 posted on 12/03/2012 4:09:16 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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