Posted on 12/03/2012 7:31:09 AM PST by Brookhaven
It looks to me like there are more Freepers who despise other Republicans more than they despise Democrat. Maybe this is why we lost.
I despise Democrats so much that it is easy for me to vote straight party Republicans in the general election. I use the primaries to select the most conservative I can get.
Right now, we are faced with the likelihood that Obama and the Democrats are DELIBERATELY taking us over the cliff. Why not? They have much to gain by doing it. There will be no compromise and we have a nation of idiots who believe that if their government only takes away more from the top 2%, their lives will be better. Thou shalt not covet.
I’ve been to two tea party conventions
aside from the leaders (and even then) there is hardly any difference between the tea party and social conservatives
Because the dead souls that run the GOP will never allow conservatives traction in their paleo-Progressive Party.
I do not advocate surrendering to the GOP.
I am for destroying it.
The place to defeat libertarians, (if you don't like them) is in the primary. Anyone with a brain knows that Democrats are the real enemy.
There is no hope outside the Republican party. I have no problem changing the name of the party if that makes people feel better but the REALITY is that in order to win elections, we must all hang together. I also reject the idea the Republican party is no different from the Democrat party.
You party peons are the ones who are brainwashed.
It is called Stockholm Syndrome.
I recognize that the GOP as an institution is an adversary and is incapable of being reformed.
There is no hope outside the Republican party.
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I advise you to repent of that comment.
Locked out of the convention? Rubio introduced Romney at the convention!
The "Tea Party" had several high profile failures that cost control of the US Senate even in states won by Romney. How do you lose Indiana? Come on!
At this point it seems self-evident the Tea Party is another in a long line of flash-in-the-pan populist movements destined to be a historical curiosity. It didn't stop Obama's agenda, it didn't keep him from reelection, it didn't expand its presence in the House and 'stars' like Allen West lost, it failed spectacularly in the Senate even in states won by Romney like Indiana.
"The War on Women." Todd Akin did that. Mourdock did that. Rush Limbaugh did that. Rick Santorum did that.
It wasn't Mitt Romney feeding that talking point but it was Mitt Romney who paid for it.
Many social conservatives are just as big gov't nanny state type as the Left, just with a different direction. Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum for example.
Social conservatism is a grass roots cultural discussion. They could be natural allies for small gov't libertarian conservatives and Tea Party types but often are not. Too many try to hijack the Tea Party movement to pull it off the fiscal message.
What libertarian ever said anything about legalizing pedophilia or letting children use drugs? Reducing every action to the standard of “it’s for the safety of the children” is an insidious tool the left and the far right use stamp out the land of the free.
lots of them, on their own boards and forums. They think the age of consent is unconstitutional, after all kids have the same rights as adults, which amendment is limited to adults?
and yes, they also call for the decriminalization of kiddie porn using the exact same arguments as used for legalizing drugs.
Well I don’t know about such forums. I know the libertarians on FR have never advocated anything like that.
Also I’m sure there are religious right forums that advocate snake handling and the drinking of strychnine but again I’ve never seen that on FR so I’d say either was a fringe element and using those examples is a straw man argument.
Karl Rove is smiling.
I have seen threads about underage drug use and sex with minors where “libertarians” on FR make the exact same arguments they do when its adults.
You know what a straw man argument is Geron? It’s when you invent a phoney argument because you’re unable to debate a point on it’s merits.
It’s the straw man they drag out every time a Libertarian speaks up, they try to force you to defend your point of view by throwing out utter BS like that.
When they do it though, you know you’re winning, because arguments like that are the refuge for the unintelligent.
debating a point on its merits is useless when one side refuses to acknowledge their real goals.
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