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To: Dead Corpse
Thanks for the opportunity to discuss and considering my simple laymen’s opinions.

So you'd exchange a humanist tyrant for a religious one...

The Bible is not tyranny, God forbid; every Jew and Christian knows that.

The idea of a religious tyrant coming to power does not consider another question.

The question is: we have political leaders. Do we want them bound to the limits of the Bible or not ?

They are bound right now by the Constitution. They have gone far beyond it's intent. How did that happen ? Because it is vague and ambiguous.

The Bible tells us that it is perfect counsel revealed by God. The problem is not with the Bible, then, only with men.

With the Constitution - not the Word of God, but a document composed by man - its vagueness and ambiguity is a problem.

We know that men will always be a problem - do we want our founding documents to also have problems of being vague and ambiguous ?

As for the Founders, they did in fact expound on the limits of government.

Such writings are not explicitly referenced by the Constitution.

What the founders expounded is simply something for Courts to consider or not according to their whim. They are neither part of the Constitution nor law.

So no... You cannot incorporate Leviticus into the USC. Sorry.

Murder, theft and lying under oath were always incorporated into our laws. Adultery used to be, as was sabbath honoring. Other moral law was included as well, and some still is. When the pilgrims first got here, there were no moral laws in their law that were not also included in God's Law Word; that continued for perhaps 100-200 years.

No one said anything about the situation being tyrannical. Hundreds of years, no mention of tyranny. People understood that when people broke laws they had to be punished, and breaking the law was wrong.

In the latter 19th and early 20th centuries, we started adding moral laws, like prohibition, that added to the moral law of the Bible. By the latter half of the 20th century, we were getting rid of the moral laws we had.

Today, people immediately protest that Biblical law is tyranny whenever it's discussed.

Let's ask ourselves - where did that idea came from ? Who decided the Bible was tyranny and when did this happen ?

And here we are today; all sorts of “morals”, made up by man - are being made into law.
42 posted on 12/04/2012 1:01:04 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen
They are bound right now by the Constitution.

Actually, no. They aren't. That is why we have the mess we are in.

The Bible tells us that it is perfect counsel revealed by God. The problem is not with the Bible, then, only with men.

But which of you is right about how to apply God's word? The Catholics? The Baptists? The Quakers? Lutherans? Until y'all figure that out, how in the heck do you think you'd be able to codify that into a National charter? Especially once you put "fallen beings" in charge of that much power...

Who decided the Bible was tyranny and when did this happen ?

It isn't. Until you try and make a government out of it. Then you get what happened for all those Centuries in Europe with the various Monarchies.

No thanks. We don't need to do that again.

44 posted on 12/04/2012 1:19:59 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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