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To: Perseverando

It’s been said before, I’ll repeat it because I wholeheartedly agree:

The problem is not Obama, the problem is a populace stupid enough to trust someone like Obama with the office of President.

The USA is finished, we’re watching it die.


3 posted on 12/04/2012 12:29:05 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: brownsfan
How I Absorbed Three Punches and Stood Up Anyway
9 posted on 12/04/2012 12:33:44 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: brownsfan

[ he problem is not Obama, the problem is a populace stupid enough to trust someone like Obama with the office of President. ]

Its damned hard to fix stupid...


12 posted on 12/04/2012 12:35:45 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: brownsfan

Sad but true...


16 posted on 12/04/2012 12:42:02 PM PST by DwFry (Baby Boomers Killed Western Civilization!)
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To: brownsfan

I’m slowly starting to come around to the painful opinion that a country that would elect and reelect a cretin like this deserves whatever comes to it. Sometimes people just need to learn their lessons the hard way.


21 posted on 12/04/2012 12:44:29 PM PST by jpl (The government spent another half a million bucks in the time it just took you to read this tagline.)
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To: brownsfan
It’s been said before, I’ll repeat it because I wholeheartedly agree:

The problem is not Obama, the problem is a populace stupid enough to trust someone like Obama with the office of President.

The USA is finished, we’re watching it die.


I pull no punches anymore, I can't be afraid.

I feel like Queen Padme, "so this is how liberty dies ... with thunderous applause." We've always had wingnuts like OBummer run for the Presidency, Victoria Woodhull in the 1870s, Jessie Jackson in the 1980's and now OBummer. Back in the 1870's, the public was wise enough to see through that. In the 1980's, same. I thought this election would have been like 1980, bad economy, Iran causing trouble, high energy prices and so on, OBummer would be tossed out on his keester. Trouble is, we are not the same nation we were in 1980. You're right, although the problem is not OBummer per se and I do believe there is fraud, but there is enough sheeple out there that would vote for their "lord and saviour" OBummer.

I blame:

1. Voter fraud.

2. Most minorities. (Note, there are some who get it, many here on FR, I am NOT pointing the finger at you and I applaud you for seeing the light and I'd be glad to battle side by side with you against this, but as a group they lean left and many see it as revenge against capitalism and "Whitey."

3. Most single moms of all colors. They look at government as big daddy.

4. White guilt. See #2 and many Whites are badgered into feeling guilty and are afraid to challenge OBummer because he's Black. Well, as they say in Spanish, he is actually mulatto but when you look at him, he does "look Black" which is good enough in the eyes of the left.

5. Moochers and deadbeats that can would but are on the dole.

6. Illegals aliens and immigrants from the third world that do not understand us.

Note, if we had a Venn Diagram of all of this, there will be a lot of overlapping to be sure.

Let's face it, OBummer could go to downtown Pittsburgh with an Uzi, gun down 50 people in cold blood, tie tin cans to cats tails and make dogs eat their own vomit and people will still cheer, hoot and holler how much of a "messiah" he is and vote for him.
35 posted on 12/04/2012 1:01:02 PM PST by Nowhere Man (It is about time we re-enact Normandy, at the shores of the Potomac.)
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To: brownsfan

The US is already dead. Past saving, even on the erroneous assumption that it is worth saving, which I am of the opinion it is not.

My daughter and 2 of her cousins are productive members of society. All the other cousins are worthless leeches that do nothing, collect benefits, have babies and mooch off parents.

Something like 2 (or 3) to 1 mooches to producers. One has had 7 illegitimate children that the state has taken away (eventually). And these are people that have been supposedly raised middle class.

And every damn one of them thinks we all owe them everything they want.

We are outnumbered, getting more so by the day. It is mathematically impossible for the US to ever return to productive prosperity. The time to prepare is running out.


36 posted on 12/04/2012 1:03:58 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: brownsfan
“The USA is finished, we’re watching it die.”

Given you are a Brown's fan, I understand your pessimism, but I think we can turn things around. It's just not going to be easy. In my view we can't afford to think election to election, but need to have a longer term (e.g. next 8 years, next 16 years etc.) vision.

I strongly believe that we have to out-intellectualize the Democrats in the public arena, and make ourselves out as the ‘fresh’ choice and the smart choice. I don't mean pseudo-intellectual. I mean genuine ‘here are the facts, here is the best course, these are the reasons, here is the best way to modernize health-care, here is the best way to deal with global economic challenges, these are the best ways forward with our technological development, these are the best ways to facilitate economic growth and simultaneously have the best environmental policy, etc. etc. Doing this is just one necessary step.

We must also be strategic in the groups we go after, and start finding seams in the Democrat's coalition that we can use to split off some of their support. This is most definitely doable.

There are a lot of other things that need to go on this list, but the truth is that we actually do have the fresher and smarter message and plan, and if we do a better job making that clear we will be okay.

42 posted on 12/04/2012 1:08:56 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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