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Douglass High School Mess Reflects a System Wide Failure
The Daily Oklahoman ^ | 12-4-12 | The Oklahoman Editorial

Posted on 12/04/2012 2:37:08 PM PST by Osage Orange

Edited on 12/04/2012 3:01:28 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

ON the first day Douglass High School students walked the halls of their new building, the Oklahoma City School Board chairman at the time stood before students with a message of hope.

“The investment they made in you is one we expect to pay off for years to come,” Cliff Hudson said that day in January 2006. He was referencing voter support of MAPS for Kids, which paid for the new Douglass and hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of capital improvements throughout the district.

Contrast Hudson's remarks to last week when the current school board chairwoman, Angela Monson, tried to sidestep accountability for what has all the makings of an educational travesty. Top school district officials had gathered to make a shocking admission: 87 of the 107 Douglass High School seniors don't have the necessary coursework and test scores to graduate come spring.

The news comes as the school is reeling from allegations that the former principal, Brian Staples, manipulated attendance and grade records. Staples resigned last month. The district turned its investigation over to state education and law enforcement authorities. Federal education officials also are investigating.

In response to questioning, Superintendent Karl Springer said the “buck stops with the school superintendent.” Those words have a hollow feel when considering the totality of the district's response to date. The district has said some of the allegations against Staples are true while some weren't. But in refusing to distinguish between the two while trotting out the newest findings, they're nonetheless pointing fingers at Staples.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; naacp; nea; ok; oklahoma; oklahomacity; publicschools
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1 posted on 12/04/2012 2:37:19 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: Osage Orange
None of their responsibilities is more basic than their duty to provide a quality education for all students. On the best day in Oklahoma City, it's a tough task

It always slays me when reporters/teachers complain and lament that teaching is a "tough task".

2 posted on 12/04/2012 2:40:39 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Osage Orange
Teaching is a job that is extremely difficult and possibly the most important job. Teachers are the reason we have Doctors, Lawyers, Dentists, etc. Without teachers, we would be in big trouble. I know that is not popular but not every parent is equipped to teach....sorry but that is a fact.
3 posted on 12/04/2012 2:49:10 PM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: Osage Orange
Throwing money at education by building "state of the art" schools and cramming lots of cool stuff in them won't solve the problem. Nor will throwing more money at the teachers' union.

The problem can only be turned around by doing the hard work of reform, which the unions and a surprising number of parents oppose tooth and nail.

4 posted on 12/04/2012 2:55:54 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: napscoordinator
I don't think teaching is all that hard unless you try to do it the way the public schools do. In that case it's not just hard, it's impossible.

But give a teacher the authority to enforce classroom discipline, permanently eject disruptive kids, and teach from an unequivocal position of authority, and the job becomes much easier.

(Reason #17 to homeschool.)

5 posted on 12/04/2012 2:56:03 PM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Osage Orange

Went on-line to look up some general information on this school and the first thing I noticed is that it is located on a street called Martin Luther King. Didn’t read too much farther.

It’s not just Oklahoma schools that are a mess. We live in Texas and pay pretty hefty property taxes but my grandson goes to a private school. I went to school in a time when the teachers could paddle you or stand you in the corner if you misbehaved and then you got it again when you got home. Teachers were smart and somewhat older, not a 20 year old something who was teaching because they couldn’t get a degree in anything else. My parents knew everything that was going on - and I made it a point to do so also when my kids were in school. I don’t know what is going to fix the problems but I do know that throwing more money at them isn’t working.


6 posted on 12/04/2012 3:08:14 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Osage Orange
But the principal isn't solely responsible for making sure students are on a graduation track.

No, he isn't. The student is ulimately responsible -- along with his parents. Where were they? Oh, right. Depending on someone from the government to tell them.

7 posted on 12/04/2012 3:10:39 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: napscoordinator
I figure you are a, or were a NEA enrolled teacher...

Am I right?

8 posted on 12/04/2012 3:15:13 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Grams A
Here's what Rich of Oklahoma City said...

"What a shame. This school's namesake, Frederick Douglass once said, "I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong." Brian Staples clearly tried to do right by cleaning house of chronically poor performing teachers and a librarian. However, because several of these employees happened to be African-American, then suddenly Staples is labeled a racist (hence why did the local NAACP join the charge of "ousting" him?) Not only was Staples physically attacked in the school parking lot by the relative of one of the fired teachers, but then he was "setup" with false accusations of grade tampering, etc.

If Monson and some of the reverse-racist Douglass parents were given truth serum, I'm pretty confident that the response would be, "We don't want a white principal at Douglass." This is reverse-discrimination at it's worst, and it isn't the first time it's happened. Not long ago another white Douglass Principal experienced a similar fate of reverse discrimination.

It's high time that Monson,, and her NAACP cronies, stay out of OKCPS proceedings because you are ABSOLUTELY failing your students; and it appears that the current Superintendent is uniting with you to do wrong. Ridiculous how "Spineless Springer" has capitulated to all of this."

I think he's totally right!!!

9 posted on 12/04/2012 3:20:36 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: napscoordinator
"...not every parent is equipped to teach....sorry but that is a fact."

It is a fact that many children are better educated through homeschooling, students far outpacing those taught in the lousy public education system of today.

A street drunk with a thorough phonics education provides a better chance of teaching children to read than do all too many of those passing themselves off to the public as a 'teacher' these days.

I've seen the results of home schooled children being hired at the age of 16 by big companies that WANT and deliberately hire home schooled children.

I've seen these 'children' get high-paying technical jobs and move into managerial jobs far quicker and with much greater success than any from the public education system.

10 posted on 12/04/2012 3:20:53 PM PST by Ron C.
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To: Osage Orange

Why worry? What good is a high school diploma when a college diploma is worthless?


11 posted on 12/04/2012 3:22:05 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Osage Orange
Oh boy... Back in the 70's at my first full-time job in OKC I worked with a couple of guys from Douglass. Good solid guys from stable families, one of them had played on the Douglass bassitball team. These guys defied the stereotype we see today with youknowwhosekids, maybe they were the exception and maybe they weren't. I can't say.

Iffclay Udsonhay, kahuna of the OKC School Board? Man this guy just keeps popping up... I did some time at Daniel Webster Junior prison in south OKC at the same time as him.

Big liberal from a big big liberal family, moved out to the the northwest part of town to get into a better school. Can't blame him for that.

Next thing I saw of him was while we were both High School age, he was jumping out in front of the TV cameras in favor of the school desegregation plan that was ordered by the courts. It was put together by some character named Dr. Finger, and there was good ol' Iffclay, at age 17, telling OKC what a wonderful thing The Finger Plan was going to be.

12 posted on 12/04/2012 3:24:31 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: Grams A
it is located on a street called Martin Luther King. Didn’t read too much farther.""""""......

You didn't need to read any futher than that. From MLK east and west,north and south, most ALL CRIME originates.

Did not know they got a new facility with that MAPs money (sales tax), they will have it destroyed in no time at all.

13 posted on 12/04/2012 3:31:36 PM PST by annieokie
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To: Osage Orange

“The investment they made in you is one we expect to pay off for years to come,” Cliff Hudson said that day in January 2006. He was referencing voter support of MAPS for Kids, which paid for the new Douglass and hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of capital improvements throughout the district.”

A decade or two ago St Louis did the same thing with the same results. you think they would have learned from that. But leftys NEVER learn or admit their solutions are wrong. If you want to fix education STOP LISTENING to the teachers, unions and School boards. Look back 40-50 years when the school systems worked. Reinstate those policies, abandon everything the NEA has promoted since then. We KNOW what works, go back to it.


14 posted on 12/04/2012 3:34:33 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: OKSooner

Yep, Cliff Hudson keeps on giving...........


15 posted on 12/04/2012 3:48:29 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Osage Orange

Wait, their senior class only has 107 members? Really?


16 posted on 12/04/2012 3:48:35 PM PST by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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That's what it said.....

Don't know if that's accurate, or not.

17 posted on 12/04/2012 3:51:12 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Osage Orange
Superintendent Karl Springer said the “buck stops with the school superintendent.”

Does this mean he'll resign once it's clearly demonstrated that the principal - his subordinate - not only presided over an educational failure but engaged in dishonest and perhaps criminal actions?

18 posted on 12/04/2012 3:52:56 PM PST by Tax-chick (Dan, is that your eyeball on the floor?)
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To: Oberon
But give a teacher the authority to enforce classroom discipline, permanently eject disruptive kids, and teach from an unequivocal position of authority, and the job becomes much easier.

Utopia!!!

19 posted on 12/04/2012 3:53:35 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (USA!)
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To: Tax-chick

Doubtful..................


20 posted on 12/04/2012 4:04:16 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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