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How the Republicans Can Shut-down the Senate (after Reid ends filibuster)
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| 11/27/12
| Plumer
Posted on 12/05/2012 12:00:42 PM PST by pabianice
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The Repubs don't have the guts. The MSM would camp on the lawns of their homes and threaten their children.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:00:46 PM PST
by
pabianice
To: pabianice
Sounds like something democrats would do if the shoe was on the other foot. Tell the republicans, “No Guts, No Glory”.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:03:39 PM PST
by
AU72
To: pabianice
Reid is such communist scum.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:04:35 PM PST
by
Bitsy
To: pabianice
What’s that Star Wars movie line about the Republic ending with applause? Somehow the irony of how it happened and who actually ended it has no doubt been lost on that fatass George Lucas.
But regardless, the Republic is in fact dead. Welcome to the USSA; enjoy your stay, comrade.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:04:53 PM PST
by
henkster
("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
To: pabianice
I remember years ago, Alabama had a Senator named Allen. I can’t recall his first name. He unfortunately died at a young age but he was a master of procedures.
There was one time when he single handedly stopped one of Senator Kennedy’s bills. We need another one like him.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:05:24 PM PST
by
yarddog
(One shot one miss.)
To: pabianice
Is this like “Deemed Passed” by the Dems?
Is this Harry Reid revising the filibuster rules when he screamed in support of them 7 years ago under GWB?
Is this tyrannical Executive Orders allowing open borders, US citizen surveillance and actual killing of US citizens without Congressional approval?
Is this unelected Czars and Bureaucrats/Agencies dictating the fate of thousands of businesses at failed junk science and far-Left beehive-housing schemes?
Oh, that stuff.
Never mind the GOP having guts.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:11:02 PM PST
by
wac3rd
(Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
To: pabianice
All of these ideas require something that the GOP is without - well, somethings, more accurately. Even supposing they WANT to.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:18:30 PM PST
by
GilesB
To: pabianice
I suggested this to then Rep. Mike Castle regarding the DeathCare bill. He smiled and said: “Oh, we couldn't do that”.
The amount of courage in the Whig Party is as a pimple on a flea's antenna.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:22:34 PM PST
by
NTHockey
(Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
To: pabianice
What is the vote requirement for Reid to change the filibuster rule? I thought it was 2/3, which would require quite a few RINOs (I'm watching you McLame and Grahamnesty) to reach across the aisle.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:25:11 PM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
To: pabianice
I love it when people don’t recall history, much less very recent history. The 2012 Democrat Convention, 2/3rds voice majority to amend the party platform - the long and short is: You can object until you are blue in the face, but if the chair doesn’t care to hear you, it does no good.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:33:09 PM PST
by
kingu
(Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
To: pabianice; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; ...
RE :”
Alternatively, the GOP could threaten to shut down the Senate entirely. This is technically doable. Keep in mind that a lot of what Senate leaders do day to day is done by unanimous consent, explains Binder. If a single senator started objecting to every little motion and maneuver, it would become impossible to conduct any legislative business at all. Some examples:
A 500-page amendment is brought to the floor, and the bill manager wants to dispense with the reading of the amendment? All a senator has to say is, I object, and its time to start reading all 500 pages out loud.
The Senate leader wants to waive the rule that prevents committees from meeting while the Senate is in session? A single senator can object , and, suddenly, committees cant meet.
Reid wants to adjourn the Senate until Jan. 3? I object.
Any senator can do this at any time, if he or she is so inclined. Indeed, as Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute explains, this is basically what happens when a senator places a hold on a White House nominee. The senator is threatening to deny unanimous consent if the nomination goes forward. “ LOL, now this is what I am talking about. Fighting!
Now this was the post that brightened my day, just the thought of it makes me laugh, its so evil.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:41:37 PM PST
by
sickoflibs
(Has Bohner caved yet? And called it historic again?)
To: sickoflibs; pabianice; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; ...
” LOL, now this is what I am talking about. Fighting!”
A strange word these days....
To: sickoflibs
looks like a job for Rand Paul...he could make their lives miserable, and get all kinds of air time too...
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:50:14 PM PST
by
Gilbo_3
(Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; pabianice; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; Impy
I have no faith in these spineless GOP “leaders”.
Allen West for Speaker, then Walker/West 2016.
Purge the RINOs, fight the Dems, f*** em all.
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:53:52 PM PST
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: KarlInOhio; pabianice
RE :”
What is the vote requirement for Reid to change the filibuster rule? I thought it was 2/3, which would require quite a few RINOs (I'm watching you McLame and Grahamnesty) to reach across the aisle.” I recall MarkLevin was calling for Rs to do this over GWB's judges being blocked in ~ 2006 but the gang of 14 made a deal with each other to stop the rules change, which was just as well as Rs lost the Senate the next year..
According to the Supreme Court ruling in United States v. Ballin (1892), changes to Senate rules could be achieved by a simple majority, but only on the 1st day of the session in January or March. Nevertheless, under current Senate rules, a rule change itself could be filibustered, with two-thirds of those senators present and voting (as opposed to the normal three-fifths of those sworn) needing to vote to break the filibuster.[44] Despite this written requirement, the possibility exists that the filibuster could be changed by majority vote, but only on the 1st day of the session in January or March, using the so-called nuclear option, also sometimes called the constitutional option by proponents. Even if a filibuster attempt is unsuccessful, the process takes floor time
Wika: Filibuster
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posted on
12/05/2012 12:55:07 PM PST
by
sickoflibs
(Has Bohner caved yet? And called it historic again?)
To: NFHale
” I have no faith in these spineless GOP leaders.
Allen West for Speaker, then Walker/West 2016.”
A real ticket?
I forgot what one looks like : )
To: sickoflibs
That's probably what I remembered. The new filibuster rule voting would itself be subject to the old filibuster rules until it passed, thus requiring 2/3 approval if any Republican had the spine to filibuster it. And that's a pretty big "if".
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posted on
12/05/2012 1:00:49 PM PST
by
KarlInOhio
(Big Bird is a brood parasite: laid in our nest 43 years ago and we are still feeding him.)
To: Gilbo_3
Not just Rand Paul, there are others that need to prove they are conservative and with America. Jim DeMint, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz to name a few.
This ploy is a great idea!
I’m still bettin dingy harry backs down before he does the stupid.
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posted on
12/05/2012 1:04:53 PM PST
by
X-spurt
(Ted Cruz for President of the Republic of Texas)
To: pabianice
I’ve actually brought this exact tactic up many times. Any single senator can bring the chamber to its knees but it actually takes guts. Unfortunately, we are being lied to by our government. We haven’t actually had two separate parties for many, many years.
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posted on
12/05/2012 1:07:57 PM PST
by
zeugma
(Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
To: pabianice
the house republican majority can also refuse to pass anything pushed though using the new rules
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posted on
12/05/2012 1:11:12 PM PST
by
TexasFreeper2009
(Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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