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Californians buying guns at record rate
ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER ^ | 12/5/2012 | CLAUDIA KOERNER

Posted on 12/05/2012 2:04:15 PM PST by dragnet2

Californians are buying more guns than ever.

As of November, the FBI's National Instant Criminal Background Check System had run 981,798 background checks related to guns in California, beating out totals for previous years before 2012 is even over. The numbers jumped about 8 percent from last year, part of a steady increase since 2008.

This year, however, the system broke records, with 154,873 calls on Nov. 23, up about 20 percent from Black Friday last year. With the high volume of calls, officials shut down call centers briefly to allow the system to catch up, Fischer said.

Among California gun buyers, the spike was even more pronounced.

Across all levels of government, officials have made moves to regulate gun ownership, he added. While the most restrictive regulations would likely be overturned by courts under the Second Amendment's right to bear arms, Eastman said a risk of control was enough to encourage prospective gun owners to buy while they can.

Outside of political strife, economic uncertainty has also inspired people to look for more protection, he said. Violent crimes have steadily declined in recent years, according to FBI statistics, but Eastman said concerns remain that those in desperate financial straits could be a threat to safety. With talk among politicians about cutting social benefits, financial hardships could become worse for many, creating an even more volatile situation, he said. Concerns are also high about preparedness in case of disasters, such as Hurricane Sandy.

"It's like a perfect storm," he said.

Charlie Blek, president of the Orange County chapter of advocacy group the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence "The National Rifle Association has done a wonderful of demonizing President Obama," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


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1 posted on 12/05/2012 2:04:24 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Everyone needs to buy some undocumented fire arms !!!!


2 posted on 12/05/2012 2:07:36 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: dragnet2

Buy RGR and SWHC stocks.


3 posted on 12/05/2012 2:07:36 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: dragnet2

Hey Charlie, I think your boychild President has done a good enough job of demonizing himself.


4 posted on 12/05/2012 2:09:45 PM PST by lesko
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To: dragnet2

I hope they bought enough ammo to take a large chunk out of the welfare zombies when their EBT cards stop working.

Better stock up on kerosine to burn the rotting corpses after the big crash.


5 posted on 12/05/2012 2:09:48 PM PST by soycd
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To: dragnet2

Lots of Hispanics own guns.


6 posted on 12/05/2012 2:11:29 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: dragnet2
San Bernardino City Attorney: ‘Lock Your Doors And Load Your Guns’

People are waking up to the fact that the police are not required or able to protect you.

7 posted on 12/05/2012 2:12:26 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: al baby

Private gun sales are illegal in CA.


8 posted on 12/05/2012 2:18:06 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: dragnet2
If a person voted for 0bama twice, they should not be allowed to buy firearms.

5.56mm

9 posted on 12/05/2012 2:19:57 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: smokingfrog

“People are waking up to the fact that the police are not required or able to protect you. “

Californians also know that when the zombies riot in the big cities, the cops will hop in their squads, turn on the red light and drive 80mph home to protect their families.


10 posted on 12/05/2012 2:21:44 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: al baby

Happening everywhere. The owner of a local gun shop told me that the sh@t hit the fan the day after the election.


11 posted on 12/05/2012 2:22:12 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: dragnet2

12 posted on 12/05/2012 2:23:10 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: dragnet2

What? I thought ALLLLL of us Californians were gun grabbin’,
sanctuary city lovin’, green energy lovin’, entitlement lovin’,
gay marriage lovin’,.....(wait, we voted that down), Obama
lovin’ LIBTARDS.

To all you so called friends who relentlessly paint ALL Californians
with the same liberal brush........go to hell.


13 posted on 12/05/2012 2:23:45 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: Sivad

Ditto that friend...


14 posted on 12/05/2012 2:24:56 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: dragnet2

On November 16 my dad went to buy a Bersa Thunder 380. Found out that on Nov 15 the state of California added it to their “Can’t Sell in This State” list... any ideas why?


15 posted on 12/05/2012 2:28:29 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: SparkyBass

F ‘em...go to Nevada


16 posted on 12/05/2012 2:31:55 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: dragnet2; Joe Brower; Myrddin; CodeToad

“Californians buying guns at record rate”

Not half as many as they’ll need.


17 posted on 12/05/2012 2:33:25 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Sivad

“To all you so called friends who relentlessly paint ALL Californians
with the same liberal brush........go to hell.”

Thanks for the offer but I’ll stay away from California....


18 posted on 12/05/2012 2:42:06 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Excellent! They'll be able to defend themselves when the “LA Riot” hordes take to the streets.
19 posted on 12/05/2012 2:44:31 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: SparkyBass

somebody might get hurt


20 posted on 12/05/2012 2:46:07 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: dragnet2

Yet Californians vote for Democrats who then vote to restrict their gun rights. Sure is a conundrum to me.


21 posted on 12/05/2012 3:00:44 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: dhs12345

I mean the good ones. There are some on our side.


22 posted on 12/05/2012 3:08:39 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: Sivad

LOL, you can find any number of dullards who hang out here that will swear up and down that liberals hate guns. Liberals certainly don’t hate guns they hate it that you can own one. Thats the rub. In fact when it comes to pulling the trigger they’ll likely wind up better than those here. Their lack of moral conviction unburdens them. Liberals are murders at heart, unafraid to murder those who don’t fall in lock step happy to bear the chains.

Frankly CA is a cesspool of stupid. Those who remain there will be troubled to bear the consequences.


23 posted on 12/05/2012 3:12:03 PM PST by 556x45
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To: Sivad

“...To all you so called friends...”

You have more friends that you know...Friend.

You’re not alone.

California gunnies are my brothers are sure as Idaho, Ohio, New Jersey Slave-State, and Alabama gunnies are.

One Team, One Fight - the left hates us ALL equally.

And it’s mutual, believe me.


24 posted on 12/05/2012 3:18:55 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 556x45

Babble much?


25 posted on 12/05/2012 3:19:08 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 556x45

“Liberals certainly don’t hate guns, they hate it that you can own one.”

You nailed it! Beckel always goes ballistic about citizens owning handguns. That’s because Fatso thinks of gun rights people as the class enemy that must be disarmed & persecuted to `build a better world’.

“Guns for me but not for thee”


26 posted on 12/05/2012 3:21:23 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: OldPossum; dragnet2; AngelesCrestHighway; Sivad

“...Yet Californians vote for Democrats...”

Not all, brother. Illegals, the stupid, the dependent, and the unintelligent do for sure.

There’s a lot of them.

There’s also a lot of good, decent, people who can’t financially move, who can’t afford to do anything except stay where they are - for now.

Can’t paint everyone. We have allies EVERYWHERE, all over the country, and we need every single one of them.

Consider them “Behind Enemy Lines” and they need help - just like gunny brothers in New Jersey, New York, etc.

One Team, One Fight.


27 posted on 12/05/2012 3:22:31 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: dragnet2

Nope but I see you’re indulging. So, lets see if you can make a coherent argument. What was it I said that was correctly?


28 posted on 12/05/2012 3:23:20 PM PST by 556x45
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To: dragnet2
Charlie Blek, president of the Orange County chapter of advocacy group the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence "The National Rifle Association has done a wonderful of demonizing President Obama," he said.

Wow, never expected to hear a positive comment from the Brady guys, wonder what went on over there? They are off the Obama Bus now?

29 posted on 12/05/2012 3:27:07 PM PST by beebuster2000
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To: 556x45

Hey, 556x45:

You ever try the Russian 5.45mmx39mm round? It’s still pretty cheap, especially compared to our 5.56. Supposed to be higher velocity too.


30 posted on 12/05/2012 3:29:39 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: 556x45
Liberals certainly don’t hate guns

What was it I said that was correctly?

Very little.

31 posted on 12/05/2012 3:31:54 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Kozak

Excellent response! LOL. I’ve never been to California myself, and God willing, I never will.


32 posted on 12/05/2012 3:32:15 PM PST by MachIV
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To: SparkyBass
California added it to their “Can’t Sell in This State” list... any ideas why?

Because they can.

33 posted on 12/05/2012 3:35:07 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: OldPossum

Absence of logic and consistency are requirements for being a modern day Democrat.


34 posted on 12/05/2012 3:38:27 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: NFHale

“the left hates us all equally”

Thanks. So true. Now, if posters like Kozak and 556x45
would bother to understand the point of my post like you
maybe we could get somewhere.


35 posted on 12/05/2012 3:41:13 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: dragnet2

LOL, you must certainly be from CA. Let us know how hanging around the cesspool works out.


36 posted on 12/05/2012 3:41:49 PM PST by 556x45
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To: MachIV

I lived there in 82 and 90-97. Never looked back.


37 posted on 12/05/2012 3:47:56 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: 556x45

I am staying to fight the fight. If you would just show up
to take back the lib whack jobs Tenn. has sent to
California over the years that would be a good start
for us. No dice? Thought so.


38 posted on 12/05/2012 3:53:41 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: dragnet2

People in California seem to do things by extremes.Why don’t we just put a forty foot high fence around the whole state and call it an insane asylum? (yes I am politically incorrect, and proud of it!)


39 posted on 12/05/2012 3:56:04 PM PST by johnd201 (johnd201)
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To: Sivad; Kozak; 556x45

“...Now, if posters like Kozak and 556x45...”

Ah, I believe they do. I can’t speak for anyone else, but generally, I think we’re ALL just so f***ing tired of the left pushing and us not pushing back. This is just another example. We hear it, read it, see it, and it’s frustrating and angering and nauseating all at once. People react.

California has many problems, and many are self-imposed by the libs running things. We all know it. And believe me, I look at it and say - “Hey...that’s part of MY Country, and my people are getting effed over.”

But realistically, It may just take a mass exodus of the productive folks, going to a better place like Arizona, or Idaho, or Nevada - to let it cave in on itself.

We’re ALL in the same boat - ALL gunnies, all Patriots, all Citizens - whether we live in so-called “red” states or not. I have many friends - all retired, former military folk, that live in Jersey. They know what it’s become. Many are moving across the river to PA just so they can be able to purchase firearms normally like most of the country can.

And now we just had an election in PA, and a anti-gun liberal freakette just elected AG. In a state with a Republican House, Senate, and Governor.

Nowhere is safe, and nowhere can we relax or let up for even an instant.

But moving away may be what it takes for you and other folks who still believe in their rights; I know it’s not financially feasible for a lot of people - lord knows, I couldn’t do it if I lived in some f***ed-up cesspole like New Jersey - but it IS something to consider.

Look at this way - the MORE of US in a state/county/township, etc., the better it will be. It’s what Libs did - they infiltrated into areas, got into the political, legal, judicial areas, and now control them.

We should be doing the same. Aggressively, and with determination.

Free men fight for what they love and believe in - or they’re not free. And battle doesn’t always mean lead flying.


40 posted on 12/05/2012 3:57:13 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Sivad
go to hell.

Thanks, but I will not be going to California anytime soon.
41 posted on 12/05/2012 4:00:32 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Kozak

“Thanks for the offer but I’ll stay away from California....”

Good. We have enough problems with liberals. We don’t
need other kinds of problems.


42 posted on 12/05/2012 4:01:35 PM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: johnd201

“..Why don’t we just put a forty foot high fence around the whole state and call it an insane asylum?...”

No, actually, why don’t we all work together to figure out a way to help those people who are just like us who are not able to get out of there, or other states like New Jersey, or New York?

Why don’t we put pressure on our local NRA chapters or other gun rights organizations and ourselves to send “lawyers, Guns, and money” as the old song says to support folks in states that are being slammed and stepped on - apply legal pressure and lawyers in states that are blatantly trampling on our brothers’ and sisters’ RIGHTS?

Like Zimmerman? Why aren’t ten thousand gunnies showing up to supoprt this guy - and ANYONE being persecuted for defending himself - every time the left tries to take one of OURS apart?

We need to stop thinking of folks as “those guys in that state” and start remembering that there are still Americans there who need help, and support, and allies.

Why don’t we band together, knock our heads together and come up with ideas and plans, means and ways to do whatever is necessary to HELP OUR PEOPLE who are being relentlessly f***ed over, everywhere, in every corner of this country?

Doesn’t that make more sense?

Because liberals pinpoint and target, and plot and scheme, and then drive, and they come soon to a theater near you - and ALL of us. No matter how “red” your own state or county may be.

Nobody ever though California would get like it is now. But it is.

There are Americans there. Our people. We should do whatever we can to help them. And they, us.


43 posted on 12/05/2012 4:09:01 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
There are Americans there. Our people. We should do whatever we can to help them. And they, us.

**************************

Amen.

44 posted on 12/05/2012 4:12:31 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 556x45
Californians buying guns at record rate

Frankly CA is a cesspool of stupid.

Your first post on this thread said it all. People doing this anywhere else are cool and good conservative Americans, but in CA, according to you, these people are stupid.

You babble too much and your comments are way transparent.

45 posted on 12/05/2012 4:14:10 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Sivad

Lets see....when and where did I read in the news about CA gun owners taking the fight to the legislature? Oh, I didn’t. You all have had enumerable opportunities to fight and make head way. Why should you burden those from other states to come and help when you all won’t even help yourselves. Please do us all a big favor. Stay in CA don;t screw up the rest of the country anymore than you already have. No one wants you.


46 posted on 12/05/2012 4:16:02 PM PST by 556x45
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To: smokingfrog
Private gun sales are illegal in CA.

My advice is screw CA. This State offer no real protection for you or me. The law is pure shi!. Between CA and NY I can't see which has the most criminally insane.

47 posted on 12/05/2012 4:17:19 PM PST by Logical me
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To: trisham

Organize and fight, like the other side does.

What was the old American Revolution saying, with the cut-up snake? “Join, or Die”

We’re there now.


48 posted on 12/05/2012 4:17:47 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale
See #45.

Some of these comments are pretty obvious...The article is about people in CA buy arms in record numbers, yet most of the comments are bad mouthing them.

Ya can't win with some of these people due to the fact they have their own agenda of bad mouthing CA, regardless of the article, the topic or whatever.

49 posted on 12/05/2012 4:20:11 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: 556x45

There are many fine Americans living in California. Some of them are FReepers. If I recall correctly, one of them is Jim Robinson.


50 posted on 12/05/2012 4:20:52 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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