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The GOP Is Dying Because The Liberty Movement Is Thriving
Zero Hedge ^ | December 6, 2012 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 12/06/2012 1:22:58 PM PST by Zakeet

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To: Responsibility2nd
Anybody ever even heard of the Liberty Movement berfore?

I have. Maybe you just need to broaden your reading range?

21 posted on 12/06/2012 3:10:20 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: i_robot73
It’s amazing, when the man-power is needed, what some in the Conservative wing focus on to dismiss a large swath of like-minded peoples. Focus and join on the major points and battle the little bits LATER.

Amen. Palin, Reagan, Thomas Sowell, and Walter Williams all know (knew, in the case of Reagan) better than to buy into the Libertarian-as-Stoner-Loser template, as assinine in its way as the MSM Republican-as-Redneck-Meanie template.

This is what it's about: restoring our rights to self determination within the framework of Judeo-Christian values enabled by smaller Constitutional gov’t, lower taxes, Rule of Law and FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM. The way the Founders intended.

22 posted on 12/06/2012 3:13:20 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: diamond6
Obamacare came before the last election.

Anyone enabling the GOP is responsible for their leftward movement.

You get what you reward. You rewarded the leftward movement of the GOP.

Own it. Be proud.

My single vote didn't change a thing.

/johnny

23 posted on 12/06/2012 3:14:11 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: diamond6
People like you gave us Obama. Thanks! Now we have Obamacare.

Waaaah waaaah waaaaah. Are you really so naive as to believe that you wouldn't have had Obamacare under Romney? He's the guy who originally INITIATED it -- Romney did what Hillary Clinton only dreamed of doing.

Vote fraud and a Democrat registered as a Republican as the GOP nominee gave us Obama.

H Hello???? That loser nominee gave Masschusetts Obamacare before Obama was even on the radar!!!

Wake up, smell the coffee, and STOP VOTING FOR LIBERALS.

24 posted on 12/06/2012 3:18:49 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: diamond6
People like you gave us Obama.

Got it. Principled conservatives that won't vote for a liberal(R) are the problem for you.

/johnny

25 posted on 12/06/2012 3:22:03 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Bogus. The Libertarian Party is primarily grounded in a perverse twist of Leftism — it definitely stands for something. These so-called Libertarians are not really libertarians, however. A true libertarian wouldn’t support the killing of nascent Life nor support the homo-fascist laws that effectively force others to support homosexual behavior.

The extreme endpoints defined by libertarianism and statism are non-starters for any free society. The best in my opinion would combine the values of Conservatism and the governing principles of libertarianism


26 posted on 12/06/2012 3:28:16 PM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: diamond6
People like you gave us Obama. Thanks!

Now we have Obamacare.

...And people like you are what has destroyed the party and now the country! Thank you! NOT!

Now we are bankrupt!

27 posted on 12/06/2012 3:29:51 PM PST by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: i_robot73

“Focus and join on the major points and battle the little bits LATER.”

Murdered babies are not “little bits”.


28 posted on 12/06/2012 3:52:01 PM PST by Owl558 ("Those who remember George Satayana are doomed to repeat him")
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To: Tublecane

I live in MN’s 6th. It’s the only reason I vote.


29 posted on 12/06/2012 4:31:52 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: Owl558

>> “Focus and join on the major points and battle the little bits LATER.”
>
> Murdered babies are not “little bits”.

Literally they are — as disgusting as it is “little bits” is what’s left after many an abortion.


30 posted on 12/06/2012 5:48:31 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m sorry jiffy-john,but you did.


31 posted on 12/06/2012 6:19:30 PM PST by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: jivin gene
Mess with me again, and I'll bring down the entire western civilization thing.....

/johnny

32 posted on 12/06/2012 6:56:41 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Gene Eric
The extreme endpoints defined by libertarianism and statism are non-starters for any free society. The best in my opinion would combine the values of Conservatism and the governing principles of libertarianism

Indeed. Libertarianism is a great philosophy, but the wheels fall off of it on the values front.



33 posted on 12/06/2012 7:32:01 PM PST by rdb3 (We're all going to get what only some of us deserve...)
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To: diamond6; JRandomFreeper; sirchtruth; Finny
People like you gave us Obama. Thanks!

Now we have Obamacare.

Diamond -

As JRF mentioned that was before last election that 0care came about. Since you seem to be willing to take whatever the Stupid Party (R) is willing to put on a ballot, I have some questions for you.

Romney supports giving "rebels" [Al-Qa'ida] weapons in Syria. Romney supports abortion. Romney supports socialized medicine. Romney supports "assault" weapons bans. Romney stated he was amenable to taxing the top income earners. Romney supports queers in the military. Romney supports queers in the Boy Scouts. Romney supports queer "marriage.".............so does Hillary Clinton. If Hillary became an (R) and was running against 0bama....would you vote for her? If so/not, why/why not?

34 posted on 12/06/2012 7:42:14 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Who says they don’t stand for conservative values? I assume you mean the values falling outside the golden rule compass. Maybe some of them don’t, or even most of them. But it is a political ideology, not a philosophy for everything. They don’t want the values of which you speak being enforced by the State.

You may think without political force backing the morals that purportedly used to hold the country ravelled said morality will wither. I disagree. That’s a cultural problem, not a political one. And though politics can hurt higher culture, it can never save it. Bringing in the state does more harm, I think, than good.

Just because you say various drugs and sexual exchanges should be legal does not mean you are encouraging people to use them. If more do, that might be the fault of legalization in a sense, but that’s the price of freedom. Anyway, I still blame culture at large, not politics.

What’s all this nonsense about diversity and political correctness? S


35 posted on 12/06/2012 9:42:42 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Repeat Offender
"People like you gave us Obama. Thanks!"

Well just like in a card game I'll rise you Bob couldn't wait to make a deal, Dole, or Read my Lips No New Taxes, Bush No.#-1 a.k.a., 41st President, and go all in with 43rd president Bush who could not spell, or write the word VETO!!

During the early to mid 1940's (I think it was or maybe the 1950's) a farmer actually invented a pair of "eyeglasses" or that would be "ROSE COLORED Eyeglasses" so that the chickens would not peck and kill each other. Obviously your wearing a pair. Same argument for all of the above, but left out of the article is how the Elites "Repub's" would cry (To get Conservatives to vote for their dog & pony show) don't forget about the SCOTUS. Need I remind you of just who was "Harriet Ellan Miers????????"

Again, you demonstrate that your infected with HOOF & MOUTH, ergo, every time you open your mouth, you stick your HOOF in it. Please find below just who was Harriet Miers.

On October 3, 2005, Harriet Miers was nominated for Associate Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court by President George W. Bush to replace retiring Associate Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. Miers was, at the time, White House Counsel, and had previously served in several roles both during Bush's tenure as Governor of Texas and President.

The nomination almost immediately drew criticism, virtually all of it from within the President's own party: David Frum castigated an "unforced error",[1] and Robert Bork denounced it a "disaster" and "a slap in the face to the conservatives who've been building up a conservative legal movement for the last 20 years. Stop drinking the KOOL-AID made with "Potomac River" water supplied by the Carl "ROSE COLORED Eyeglasses" Rove's et. al.

The GOP-elitist said "Beat a Marxist with a Liberal!" What a colossal blunder.

"Life is hard; it's harder if your stupid" John Wayne.

36 posted on 12/06/2012 10:36:39 PM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: Zakeet
54% of whites under 30 voted for Romney. That's better than Reagan got in 1980.

Why would Libertopians elect a Democrat against West? They want socialized health care and a Democrat who will support the NDAA? I call BS on this piece.
37 posted on 12/07/2012 12:29:14 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: i_robot73
Sadly, most people, even here, would run howling back to their chains if they had a choice between them and Liberty.

Even now, they live in denial of the depth of tyranny which we have, and the looming totalitarianism--so much so they think this can be fixed by voting for the people who have helped craft it.

They have no concept of freedom, nor the ability to live a moral life without myriad legal constraints and value the illusion of security far too much to leave the fenced in plantation they live on.

38 posted on 12/07/2012 2:31:40 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Gene Eric
A true libertarian wouldn’t support the killing of nascent Life nor support the homo-fascist laws that effectively force others to support homosexual behavior.

And which Libertarians voted for any of that in Congress? Which Libertarian signed the Bill?

39 posted on 12/07/2012 2:35:16 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Are you testing me, or do you have something to say?


40 posted on 12/07/2012 2:53:34 AM PST by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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