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The GOP Is Dying Because The Liberty Movement Is Thriving
Zero Hedge ^ | December 6, 2012 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 12/06/2012 1:22:58 PM PST by Zakeet

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... perhaps the greater purpose of the endless lesser-of-two-evils charade was to see if the establishment could convince us to compromise our conscience and be drawn back into the game ...

1 posted on 12/06/2012 1:23:06 PM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
I'm ok with a historical GOP. The sooner it becomes a footnote in a history book, the better.

I got really tired of being berated here on FR because I wouldn't vote for the liberal(R).

I don't vote for liberals. Ever.

/johnny

2 posted on 12/06/2012 1:27:49 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Zakeet

I was not drawn back in. I no longer vote in national elections. Not that it makes a difference, as I live in MN and my candidate has never won our electoral votes.

Not that it ever would have mattered, because ni election that matters will ever be decided by one vote.


3 posted on 12/06/2012 1:29:28 PM PST by Tublecane
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And, the only people left in this country who actually understand what conservatism really is are Liberty Movement activists.

 

 

Anybody ever even heard of the Liberty Movement berfore?

~crickets~

I didn't think so. A whole lot of blustering here over some Liberty Movement no one ever heard of.

4 posted on 12/06/2012 1:32:05 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Zakeet

I am sympathetic to the liberty movement. I even paid LP dues for a few years, before Ruby Ridge and Waco. And I agree that the GOP is terminally ill.

But my adequate GOP congressman lost to a communist this year by 6000 votes, and the Libertarian in the race got 12 000 votes.

This was an official Jim Noble-designated BAD THING.

Comments appreciated.


5 posted on 12/06/2012 1:32:39 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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6 posted on 12/06/2012 1:35:05 PM PST by baddog 219
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The GOP is dying and we are thriving

I may have missed it, but did everything he described in the last election revolve around defeating gop candidates? Was there even one candidate identified as being of "The Liberty Movement" that won an election without essentially running on the gop ticket?

Kind of hard to "thrive" when all you can do is make other people lose to leftwingers.

7 posted on 12/06/2012 1:35:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Zakeet

RINO File.


8 posted on 12/06/2012 1:36:21 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Anybody ever even heard of the Liberty Movement berfore?”

Yes. It is libertarianism with a nice new marketing package. What it is NOT is a party of conservative values.


9 posted on 12/06/2012 1:38:27 PM PST by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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Yeah, I went and Googled Liberty Movement.

The results were Libertarians and Ron Paul. See my tagline. I HATE Libertarians. They are one or two steps better than your average Occu-tard.


10 posted on 12/06/2012 1:42:07 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Zakeet
This administration is full of Clinton people...Eric Holder, susan rice, Hillary,..podesta. Goldman is always represented in blue or red administrations. Talks of Hillary, Jeb Bush now Michelle Obama for 2016.

Need to move away from the usual players. Cant believe Bill Clinton is still involved.

11 posted on 12/06/2012 1:43:16 PM PST by opentalk
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“liberty movement is thriving” ??

on what planet?


12 posted on 12/06/2012 1:44:03 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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“The point is, Ron Paul, a true conservative”

BS, libertarians are the masters of standing for nothing. Yes they have sound fiscal policies (sometimes to extreme), but if you cannot stand for conservative values (even social ones) you stand for nothing. The unraveling of this country is based partially in its allowance of morality and history of acting on that morality to be cast aside in the name of diversity and political correctness.

Yes I don’t care what you do in your house as long as it stays in your house and does not harm anyone else (which covers abuse cases), but allowing for cultural definitions to be re-defined is not conservative.

The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke (basically the libertarian mantra)


13 posted on 12/06/2012 1:51:03 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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Libertarian: Free markets, legal recreational drugs and yeah, yeah, that Bible stuff, too. If bombs are raining down on your head, call the military right away, but otherwise, don’t spend much on it, because it all goes to Eisenhower’s “military-industrial complex”.

Conservative: The Bible, legitimate free enterprise, law and order and true national defense, requiring the blood and treasure necessary, no more, no less.


14 posted on 12/06/2012 1:56:15 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Jim Noble
We had the same thing in Indiana. I voted against Luger in the primary hoping to get someone more conservative and ended up with a democrat.

It really is a catch-22. If you vote your conscience you acknowledge that more dems will be elected as a result. However voting for the lesser of two evils is what allows the GOP to remain in power as they shift to the left.

15 posted on 12/06/2012 2:08:51 PM PST by Roland
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To: Resolute Conservative; PieterCasparzen

Why, yes, focus on the fringe differences....Don’t bother worrying about the elephant in the room, so to speak, on the basics: smaller Constitutional gov’t, lower taxes, Rule of Law and FREEDOM FREEDOM FREEDOM.

Naw, worry about the stoners (even the recreational users), the gays (and WHY is gov’t in the biz of marriage?), pulling back our troops where they’re not wanted/needed), etc.

It’s amazing, when the man-power is needed, what some in the Conservative wing focus on to dismiss a large swath of like-minded peoples.

Focus and join on the major points and battle the little bits LATER.


16 posted on 12/06/2012 2:28:42 PM PST by i_robot73
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To: Responsibility2nd
Anybody ever even heard of the Liberty Movement before?

Tennessee Liberty Alliance
http://www.tnliberty.org/

Liberty Alliance
http://libertyalliance.com/

Florida Conservative Liberty Alliance
http://www.claflorida.org/

To name a few

17 posted on 12/06/2012 3:03:34 PM PST by HangnJudge
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Properly articulated, taught , and expressed, FREEDOM and LIBERTY have a universal appeal.

Once the concepts get laundered through the DC bureaucracy into politically correct concepts and compromises ....not so much.

18 posted on 12/06/2012 3:08:27 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

self-ping


19 posted on 12/06/2012 3:08:46 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: JRandomFreeper

People like you gave us Obama. Thanks!

Now we have Obamacare.


20 posted on 12/06/2012 3:09:46 PM PST by diamond6 (Pray........pray very hard!!)
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