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Chrysler Auto Workers fired...are back on the job
MyFoxDetroit.com ^ | Dec 07, 2012 | Rob Wolchek

Posted on 12/07/2012 8:20:16 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo

Two years ago Fox 2 Problem Solver Rob Wolchek got a tip from someone inside Chrysler's Jefferson North Assembly plant about what some workers were doing at the park on their lunch break.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxdetroit.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: booze; chrysler; fired; weed; workers
Right to work drink.
1 posted on 12/07/2012 8:20:24 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo
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To: cripplecreek

ping


2 posted on 12/07/2012 8:25:27 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (I prefer liberty with danger to peace with slavery, IXNAY THE TSA!)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Good Lord. What a bunch of losers. Dangerous losers.


3 posted on 12/07/2012 8:25:53 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Fire the arbitrator. (duh)


4 posted on 12/07/2012 8:27:18 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

I remember the video - workers speed outta the plant at lunch time, stop at the beer store and stock up, drive to a parking lot to guzzle beers and toke up on weed - then hot foot it back to the plant [all in 45 minutes] ...


5 posted on 12/07/2012 8:35:58 PM PST by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

My 2005 Chrysler Town and Country at 100,000 miles is rusting, the rear A/C rotted out, there are many creaks and rattles and the check engine light comes on half a dozen times a year. (for different reasons) The last time I went to a dealer they quoted me $450.00 for plugs and wires.

My previous van ate the tranny at 75,000 miles and my Stratus pissed oil on the driveway at 45k.

My 2002 Civic, with 278,000 miles needed shocks, brakes and an alternator in the last two years.

Tell me why I should buy American again?


6 posted on 12/07/2012 8:42:19 PM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Mitt has dogs for pets - Obama had them for lunch)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

I know what you mean; my 2001 Isuzu has been nothing but trouble since I got it. Gas once a week, oil every three month and tires every three years, what a hassle!


7 posted on 12/07/2012 8:52:19 PM PST by Floribama
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To: RckyRaCoCo

It definitely pays to belong to the choomsters union.


8 posted on 12/07/2012 8:54:19 PM PST by moovova
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To: RckyRaCoCo
back in the 80's a guy i know working at the local Chrysler finally found the source of a a rattle in a car that had been brought in six times before he found a BEER CAN with "HA HA YOU FINALLY FOUND ME" written in sharpie on it...
9 posted on 12/07/2012 8:55:44 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
I had a 1978 Plymouth Horizon -- possibly the worst car ever built in a non-Communist Bloc nation.

Are you sure your Civic isn't an American car? Of our family's Hondas, two are 'merkun and one is Canadian. You can't judge a book by its cover, as they say.

I thought last year the Toyota Camry had the highest US part content of any car made in the US.

10 posted on 12/07/2012 9:02:22 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222

Believe it or not, it was actually made in England. (Si)


11 posted on 12/07/2012 9:21:01 PM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Mitt has dogs for pets - Obama had them for lunch)
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To: Sooth2222
We're a Honda family as well. Read post #6 for the reason. Two of the daughters have Civics. The son-in-law drives an Accord. We recently traded a 1997 Accord with over 210,000 miles on the odometer in on a 2013 Fit. Except that we took the dealer's advice and put it on Craig's List at double the quoted trade in value just for sh*ts and giggles to see what happened.

I had 27 calls on it. The third guy to look at it handed me cash for the asking price while a 4th guy was waiting his turn and a 5th was on his way over to look . . . all within the first 30 hours after it hit Craig's List.

All except the Fit were built in America. I'm actually old enough to remember that once upon a time, America produced that kind of quality and we laughed at the Japanese.

12 posted on 12/07/2012 9:25:16 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lmo56

“...workers speed outta the plant at lunch time, stop at the beer store and stock up, drive to a parking lot to guzzle beers and toke up on weed - then hot foot it back to the plant [all in 45 minutes] ...”

We had a similar drill: tare out at lunch, hit the local sandwich joint, order a pitcher of beer and a cheese steak each, drink, eat, and tare it back to the machine shop, all in 45 minutes. But we were programmers, programmers were allowed to be crazy. You wouldn’t believe what we did on Friday for lunch.


13 posted on 12/07/2012 9:27:25 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Something like this happened at the Saint Paul Ford plant. they did finely get rid of the union thugs there.

They closed the plant down 10 years later to do it. but they got it done!


14 posted on 12/07/2012 9:33:19 PM PST by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Right to pass around a joint.


15 posted on 12/07/2012 9:41:29 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Rusting after 7 years? I drive a 15-year-old Taurus without a trace of rust, even where the paint has been scraped away. An how does an A/C rot away? At the very least, you need to get your local government to quit using salt on the highways; it does next to nothing for the snow, and eats through cars. Even still, with the freakish bad luck you describe, I think you need a witch doctor, not a mechanic. Eating a tranny at 75K and pissing oil at 45K is just bizarre. (I’ll presume you know how to drive and maintain a car, but the only time I’ve ever heard of a tranny going that young in the last 30 years was someone who didn’t know how to use a stick shift on a Geo.)

As for the Civic, I can’t tell if you’re praising your Japanese nameplate, or cursing your American-made car. 278,000 miles is pretty good for an alternator., and if you’re really putting 50,000 miles every two years, I can’t be shocked that brakes and shocks need to be replaced; that’s not poor workmanship, it’s inevitable wear and tear.


16 posted on 12/08/2012 12:33:03 AM PST by dangus
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

Rusting after 7 years? I drive a 15-year-old Taurus without a trace of rust, even where the paint has been scraped away. An how does an A/C rot away? At the very least, you need to get your local government to quit using salt on the highways; it does next to nothing for the snow, and eats through cars. Even still, with the freakish bad luck you describe, I think you need a witch doctor, not a mechanic. Eating a tranny at 75K and pissing oil at 45K is just bizarre. (I’ll presume you know how to drive and maintain a car, but the only time I’ve ever heard of a tranny going that young in the last 30 years was someone who didn’t know how to use a stick shift on a Geo.)

As for the Civic, I can’t tell if you’re praising your Japanese nameplate, or cursing your American-made car. 278,000 miles is pretty good for an alternator., and if you’re really putting 50,000 miles every two years, I can’t be shocked that brakes and shocks need to be replaced; that’s not poor workmanship, it’s inevitable wear and tear.


17 posted on 12/08/2012 12:33:08 AM PST by dangus
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

There are three reasons why I will not buy a new vehicle from Ford GM and Chrysler

1) United

2) Auto

3) Workers

I used to work on cars....then I bought a Toyota. Now, I don’t work on cars because I don’t need to.


18 posted on 12/08/2012 2:01:45 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: dangus

Iput 297 thousand miles om a 2003 Pontiac Grand Am between Sept 2002 and June 2010. In that time I put a left front hub and rotor, and an alternator on it. Also had about 3 sets of front brakes on it. That @($^%$^ traction control uses brakes. After I unhooked it, brake wear went away.
I recently gave it to my son-in-law who is putting 500 miles a week on it. I told him to get the rear brakes ckecked and the mechanic said it still had 90% shoes on it. After 300,000 miles!! It also uses a half Ouartof oil between changes. That blamed American car (pre-OBOZO of course) just ain’t no good, I guess.
After sitting for a year and a half, he had to put a new alternator on it.


19 posted on 12/08/2012 3:50:29 AM PST by snowtigger (. Thanx to Charlie Daniels, " Let them win, or bring them HOME")
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To: snowtigger; NY.SS-Bar9

Apparently, the problem with rear A/Cs is legit. (I didn’t even know they had separate rear A/Cs!) They weren’t designed with the expectation that solitary drivers would constantly turn the rear A/C on but much lower than your front A/C.


20 posted on 12/08/2012 4:41:57 AM PST by dangus
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To: RckyRaCoCo
When it comes to cars, I just went from "Buy American" to "Boycott American". Chrysler had every right to fire those workers, and I saw nothing in the article that justified hiring them back.

I don't want to put Americans out of work any more than anyone else, but I'm not going to expect anyone to pay for this to save American jobs.

I'm not in the market, but when I am, it's foreign built Ford or transplant for me. This has to stop.

21 posted on 12/08/2012 4:48:01 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Vigilanteman
I'm actually old enough to remember that once upon a time, America produced that kind of quality and we laughed at the Japanese.

Yup. Now, the domestic makes have barely half of their own market, and that's assuming you count Fiat owned Chrysler as a domestic brand.

22 posted on 12/08/2012 4:50:42 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: RckyRaCoCo
Considering it went all the way to arbitration (which surprises me), I suspect the workers were awarded back pay too.....

Chrysler and the UAW have a bargaining agreement regarding disciplinary actions and substance abuse problems (as did my Tier 1 company). At the most, I would have expected the workers to only get a few weeks off without pay but given the high profile coverage from the local TV media, they disregarded that established policy and tried to keep them fired.

The arbitrator didn't rule on the actions of the employees which resulted in their discharges, but rather Chrysler's violation of the legally binding bargaining agreement.......

23 posted on 12/08/2012 5:06:28 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: Hot Tabasco
The arbitrator didn't rule on the actions of the employees which resulted in their discharges, but rather Chrysler's violation of the legally binding bargaining agreement.......

When I buy my next car, I'm going to arbitrate my own ruling on this.

24 posted on 12/08/2012 5:13:24 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: dangus
Rusting after 7 years? .... Even still, with the freakish bad luck you describe,

A/C Rot

I think you need a witch doctor, not a mechanic. Eating a tranny at 75K (Common for the 4 spped A/T - the differential pins would come loose)

and pissing oil at 45K is just bizarre.

2.4L Chrysler head

25 posted on 12/08/2012 5:33:18 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Mitt has dogs for pets - Obama had them for lunch)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
My 2005 Chrysler Town and Country at 100,000 miles is rusting ... a dealer they quoted me $450.00 for plugs and wires.
Rusting after 7 years is not unusual, especially if you live where they get lots of snow and use a lot of salt.
I live in Rochester, NY and I can remember the days when most cars were rusted after three years.
And if you got 100K miles out of the original set of plugs/wires, I don't think that's something to complain about.
26 posted on 12/08/2012 5:36:44 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven; NY.SS-Bar9
a dealer they quoted me $450.00 for plugs and wires.

He was complaining about the price...$450.00 for plugs and wires???

Even the top line plugs and wires would not be more than $100.00

The problem with putting a set in the Chrysler Town and Country is the way the engine sits...

A couple of plugs are REAL hard to get too...

Been there, done that

27 posted on 12/08/2012 5:50:01 AM PST by Popman
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To: Popman
Been there, done that

The dealer didn't even look at the plugs and wires - the CEL indicated a miss.

It takes me 20 minutes for the front three plugs and about 20 minutes a piece for the three rears. Wires are $60.00 and plugs are $6.00 each. $100.00 and 1-1/2 hours vs. $450.00

28 posted on 12/08/2012 6:53:56 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Mitt has dogs for pets - Obama had them for lunch)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
$100.00 and 1-1/2 hours vs. $450.00
Would have suggested you do your own wires & plugs, but today, that "skill" is pretty much unknown or forgotten.

29 posted on 12/08/2012 8:30:52 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

If the union doesn’t consider being drunk and high on the job grounds for dismissal, then what would a union member have to do to get fired? Publicly announce they were a Republican?


30 posted on 12/08/2012 1:55:18 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: Drango

“Fire the arbitrator. (duh)”

They can’t, he’s union.


31 posted on 12/09/2012 9:07:46 AM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Well I hope you buy American.

However you define it.

Before we lose our Auto industry, just like we’ve lost most every other industry.

BUY AMERICAN.


32 posted on 12/09/2012 9:18:09 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Our auto industry died many years ago.

I will buy American again someday, but NON-UNION only.

I don’t buy union made beer either.

When I buy a product, I look to see who is making it. Non union made, whatever it is.


33 posted on 12/09/2012 1:48:54 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: oh8eleven
Would have suggested you do your own wires & plugs, but today, that "skill" is pretty much unknown or forgotten.

The $100.00 and 1-1/2 hours IS my time and cost.

And BTW feeler gauges are no longer used - platinum plugs come pre-gapped and many are not adjustable.


34 posted on 12/10/2012 6:39:18 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Mitt has dogs for pets - Obama had them for lunch)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
platinum plugs come pre-gapped and many are not adjustable.
You just haven't tried hard enough :)
35 posted on 12/10/2012 6:42:51 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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