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To: berdie

“So you believe that ss/medicare are welfare programs? Do you also believe that private insurance and annuities (for retirement) are as well? Both ss/med are paid for. They aren’t free.”

I would say that private insurance and annuities are NOT welfare programs if funds actually exist in them TODAY. But if the depositors were somehow able to borrow against them, and clean them out...then yes, any money they paid out would not be depositor money, they would, BY DEFINITION, be someone else’s money.

As far as SS and Medicare, give the account number with the $40T or so that should be there by now. You can’t because it has all been borrowed against. It was a deal with the devil, lower income tax rates in exchange for stealing from SS and Medicare, FOR DECADES. So no, the money is not there, it is long gone.


147 posted on 12/09/2012 6:46:04 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: BobL

“if funds actually exist in them today..”

If a private insurer or retirement administrator absconded with funds they would be required to insure those funds..or go to prison ala Bernie Madoff.

We can’t imprison all of the past politicians that served for the last 70 years or so. (but that is a fun idea)

There have been alternatives placed on the table that are equitable to all.

If you want to rage...call your representatives. Not that it will help...any more than it has in the last 70 years.

So your kids will suffer...so will mine. I don’t see that you answered my question about what government bloated departments could be shut down to save our children.

I think you are just p.o.’d about paying taxes in general. It really doesn’t have anything to do with your kids.


151 posted on 12/09/2012 7:21:37 PM PST by berdie
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