There is a continuum of FMG. At its mildest it is little more than a symbolic nick. This goes thru stages of removal of the prepuce, amputation of the entire clitoris, excisement of various parts or all of the labia, to all of the above plus sewing the vagina shut.
I’m not in favor of any of them, but let’s not make ourselves look foolish by claiming they’re all the same thing. Any more than the normal male circumcision is “the same thing” as amputation of the penis and/or testicles. After all, they’re all “male genital mutilation.”
BTW, there are some men in this country who get seriously worked up over the issue of MGM. I don’t get it, personally. It just isn’t that big a deal to most men who’ve been thru the procedure.
“there are some men in this country who get seriously worked up over the issue of MGM. I don’t get it, personally. It just isn’t that big a deal to most men who’ve been thru the procedure.”
You’re quite correct there’s a continuum of both FGM and MGM. Circumcision isn’t the equivalent of getting one’s penis cut off (nor did I ever claim it was), nor is it the equivalent of the most radical forms of FGM. That said, it is largely perpetrated on innocent victims who by definition do not consent to the procedure. Moreover, my understanding is that no anesthesia is used (this is certain true at a bris) even though it is now well-established that the procedure causes pain to infant males subjected to the procedure.
There’s mixed evidence of efficacy, but for whatever minor benefit is conferred, I’m not sure there’s any inherent benefit over circumcision at age 18. If so, it’s unclear why we routinely subject male infants to this trauma instead of letting said males decide for themselves at age 18 whether the small benefits are worth whatever discomfort is involved (I’m assuming that age 18, it would not be dangerous to use anesthesia for the procedure as I know from experience that anesthesia is certainly used for sterilization etc.).
So my point wasn’t to claim male circumcision is as bad as FGM might be for the average FGM victim. I’m simply expressing surprise that what might be viewed as a gratuitously traumatic procedure is so routinely accepted for males. I think visitors from Mars might well wonder why we are so barbaric etc.
Don’t be a chump who is an apologist for monsters, believing the monsters’ lying cover story for actual FGM.
If you believe the “little nick” story that they tell young girls prior to the atrocity, I have a really nice group delousing shower in Bavaria I can sell you cheap.
The Germans were really into hygiene, apparantly, even in concentration camps.
Do you believe that cover story lie too?
Do you always believe lying monsters, or only some of them?