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To: sergeantdave; All

Also remember that a Constitutional Convention can and would be represented by political elements that are detrimental to our goal of restoring virtuous government representation and processes, in the form of government we have at this time...

So I am cautious about what some folks hope for on this particular issue...

The mechanisms for what some want in this discussion about this petition, those goals desired, need significant preparation (socially, fiscally and morally) more than what a (this) petition (might) generate(s)...

BTW, I am not a big Bible thumper type person...But the moral, the virtuous, mindset is one that needs to be thought (prayed) about first and foremost...

We have a government and people that have lost their way...Restoring that virtue may be what repairs the union we have in place now...But that may not happen overnight, and even if it did, would it be sustainable???

Think about it...

Just for fun, and not to make lite of the issue, a part of me itches for a fight...I do want to engage the evil that has consumed and literally spit out the courage and virtuous nature of the founding principles of what this country was founded upon...That is my dilema...It is both a personal and spiritual battle to me...But I need to find something that removes my doubt, my concern about any ounce of futility to what will result from my decision...And that may be more common to others here as well...

So...

What are YOU prepared to do about this???

And...

What are YOU willing to sacrifice to achieve this victory???

These are personal and rhetorical question each and everyone of you need to choose to answer...

The reality of your decision will end up being a personal future YOU (and you alone) will have to accept responsibility for, and more important, be accountable for...

Some of us have made a decision before, and that which we have taken an oath to defend has been cheapened by others with alterior motives and agendas...

So another question is this:

Do we allow the secular and un-virtuous citizenry, not just their representatives, destroy the Union as we understand its duties to be???

Or do we demand that those in the future be very clear and unambiguous to what and where the station of Federal government should return to???

As long as we still have the mechanism to effect change every two years (Federally), we can still do this...But those that desire to represent us need to re-commit to the originalist foundations and restrictions placed upon that office (government entity) within our ratified Constitution...

And deviation from that virtuous principle(s) should be rejected with ALL due prejudice!!! Nothing less should be acceptable...

BTW, if anyone likes what I have written here today wish to do so, in whole or in part, you are very welcome to do so, take this to your elected officials, whther they be democrat, republican or independent...These are your words, these people need to hear directly from you...

I intend to take these words to my congressman when he comes back from D.C. for the Christmas holidays...I have already set up an appointment to see him in his district office, and I intend to deliever this “idea” to him, all kidding aside...

Then put him in a headlock, and give him a big “noogie” for being such a political putz...;-)

We can still turn the ship around, we just need to encourage a change of perseption and re-focus these representatives up and down the chain of command before it is too late...I still believe in the Union, but I do not see a permanent/negative outcome from a separation movement within the state of Texas, or any other state at this time...

This is just my opinion and thoughts, therefore open for flames, and other sources of agreement or dissagreement...Any hurt feelings are of no personal concern to me, I grieve for the lives that have been lost in maintaining this Union, if we fail to correct the course this nation is on right now...

So if I were to Bible thump, I would say this...

God does want to bless and love this nation, but we need to return to a virtuous mindset before I believe we will return to his good graces...That is where our fight really lies...


44 posted on 12/11/2012 7:28:24 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64
"Also remember that a Constitutional Convention can and would be represented by political elements that are detrimental to our goal of restoring virtuous government representation and processes, in the form of government we have at this time... So I am cautious about what some folks hope for on this particular issue..."

Your fears are unfounded. Yes there would be some attempts from the left to introduce left wing ideas but the left is so outnumbered they would not get off the ground. Even if they were able to propose some liberal amendment it could NEVER be ratified.

This is the very reason the democrats block any attempts to bring a balanced budget amendment to a vote of the people. THEY KNOW IT WOULD BE RATIFIED BY THE STATES AND THEY WOULD BE POWERLESS TO STOP IT!

If you fear a Constitutional Convention you do not understand the weakness of the left. The simply DON'T have the numbers. They never have. They fear the will of the people more than anything.

A Constitutional Convention allows the will of the people to be voted on.

Secession is a huge loss even if it succeeds. Why on earth would we want to give up huge parts of the country? Wouldn't it be better to actually have California as part of our country AND have them abide by our Constitution? Imagine ALL the states actually following the constitution. We can have that again.

49 posted on 12/11/2012 10:23:41 PM PST by precisionshootist
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