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To: surfer; wagglebee; wmfights; C. Edmund Wright; P-Marlowe; little jeremiah; Alamo-Girl; ...
You know there was a time when man was truly free in America before all of these absurd laws

That's just a blind reading of history, surfer. Until very recently, homosexuality has always been illegal in America.

If you're going to come up with these theories, then you should force yourself to recognize the actual facts of the situation you face. The Federalists, Jefferson, Madison, Washington, et al, participated in the criminalization and punishment of deviant sexuality.

They saw absolutely no contradiction.

Fighting Disease has ALWAYS been recognized as Defense of the homefront. This is not some bizarre new theory.

331 posted on 12/12/2012 4:47:44 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

Theories?

The entire issue has to do with federal versus state - that’s it.

I could care less if a state made anything legal or illegal, their decisions would drive the ultimate fate of that state.

We would have choices - if your state made a law you don’t agree with you could move. Whenever we want a top down enforcement from the federal government we end us losing.

You are so stuck with your hatred you can’t see straight nor see the simple point that has been made.

The reason you are big government is because you think the federal government should enforce the things YOU WANT them to enforce. I DON’T WANT the federal government enforcing ANYTHING I want. The states can do whatever they want.


332 posted on 12/12/2012 4:58:04 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: xzins; surfer; wagglebee; wmfights; C. Edmund Wright; P-Marlowe; little jeremiah; Alamo-Girl
That's just a blind reading of history, surfer. Until very recently, homosexuality has always been illegal in America.

For good reason!

On a religious basis it is not acceptable behavior. It is in direct opposition to how we are supposed to try and live our lives.

From a secular view promoting a deviant unhealthy behavior as "good and normal" is self destructive. From a govt view, marriage is important because it creates the best structure for children to become part of the nation and to be sound citizens. Marriage creates a contractual arrangement that protects the family structure.

Homosexual marriage from a secular view does nothing for the benefit of a nation. Children are not born in a homosexual marriage. Children are not raised in an environment that leads to more children being born, instead they are adopted into the single sex environment and are taught this is normal.

If a govt does not actively pursue policies that keep the nation healthy and growing in time the nation will decline and be dominated by younger more aggressive nations. In this sense defending marriage as the union between a man and a woman is a defense issue.

The problem we have is a majority of the country has now bought into the idea that everything is okay "as long as you don't hurt anyone" and why should we treat homosexuality different than civil rights. As a religious people the answer is obvious. GOD tells us it is wrong and unnatural. However, the popularity of homosexual rights and marriage increasingly show we are not a religious people anymore.

346 posted on 12/12/2012 7:04:31 AM PST by wmfights
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To: xzins

I don’t remember Beck bsing so libertarian back when he was on TV.


355 posted on 12/12/2012 8:22:16 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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