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To: surfer; Jim Robinson; xzins; little jeremiah; wagglebee; wmfights
Until we remove abortion, gay rights, etc off the table at a national level we will NEVER win another national election.

The only reason abortion, gay rights, etc., are even ON the national level is because of decisions made AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL by unelected, unaccountable Federal Judges.

We cannot solve a problem created by the unconstitutional imposition of the Federal Government into the inalienable rights of human beings (i.e, abortion) by attempting to do it at the State Level. We first have to attack the problem at the source, and in this case, the source is the Federal Government.

If we remove the planks against abortion and the sanctity of marriage and the traditions that have held this country together for the last 2 centuries, then we might as well surrender all of our rights and liberties, because Godless (meaning the Judeo/Christian God) government of any stripe always leads to tyranny.

By using a Nazi Analogy to try to put down those of us who are fighting at all levels to preserve not only our constitution, but the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity you are not only showing your ingnorance of the history of this country, but you are showing a contempt for the purpose for which this website was created.

I think you owe everyone on this thread a deep felt apology. I think you need to reconsider your godless libertarian philosophy and consider that godless libertarianism leads to rampant un-checked civil hedonism, which eventually destroys all civilizations.

379 posted on 12/12/2012 9:16:16 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: P-Marlowe; surfer; Jim Robinson; xzins; little jeremiah; wagglebee; wmfights
We cannot solve a problem created by the unconstitutional imposition of the Federal Government (Judiiciary) into the inalienable rights of human beings (i.e, abortion) by attempting to do it at the State Level. We first have to attack the problem at the source, and in this case, the source is the Federal Government.

Excellent point, and those black-robed activists won't spend more than a second finding a rationale for striking down any state-level rejection of abortion, homosexuality, etc.

Isn't that what happened with the Fed appeals court and California's rejection of gay marriage?

That was a "state-level" initiative, and what did it get them?

bupkis

The judges, as Roberts proved, will twist logic into new-age pretzels to go the direction they want to go.

384 posted on 12/12/2012 9:35:08 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe; surfer; Jim Robinson; svcw; xzins
By using a Nazi Analogy to try to put down those of us who are fighting at all levels to preserve not only our constitution, but the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity you are not only showing your ingnorance of the history of this country, but you are showing a contempt for the purpose for which this website was created.

I think you owe everyone on this thread a deep felt apology. I think you need to reconsider your godless libertarian philosophy and consider that godless libertarianism leads to rampant un-checked civil hedonism, which eventually destroys all civilizations.

Well said, Marlowe!

If you will notice, subsequent posts by surfer apologize for and defend Beck.

Surfer:
Beck was not a supporter of Romney during the primaries at all Jim. Beck got behind Romney for one reason - at least he isn’t a communist.

If you don’t listen to Beck regularly don’t claim you know where he stands.

My question is, what do surfer, Romney and Beck have in common?

395 posted on 12/12/2012 10:15:51 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Romney's gift to the country....Boehner bowing to Obama while kicking the Tea Party.)
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