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The GOP -- Not a Club For Christians
Townhall.com ^ | December 12, 2012 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/12/2012 5:31:23 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/12/2012 5:31:27 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

...Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles.

1 Corinthians 1:23


2 posted on 12/12/2012 5:36:54 AM PST by Obadiah (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Kaslin

I did not leave the GOP, it left me.
Just looking for a REAL conservative party here!


3 posted on 12/12/2012 5:44:10 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Kaslin
Twenty years ago, conservatives started referring to Judeo-Christian values in an effort to be more inclusive. The challenge now is to figure out how to talk in a way that doesn't cause decent and dedicated Christians to pull in like a turtle, while also appealing to non-Judeo-Christians and the nonreligious.

Goldberg makes some good points. Look, I am a Christian and not ashamed of the Gospel. If we can get Buddhists and Jews and Hindus to agree with us on sanctity of life and free markets, let's do it.

4 posted on 12/12/2012 5:44:44 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kaslin

We no longer have any cultural identity. Assimilation is a thng of the past. Judeo-Christian beliefs and principles created what we once had, cultural and religious diversity will destroy everything. The curse at Babel was and is very real. The Dims understand this reality well. Beyond that, no sense flogging a horse as dead as the Republican Party.


5 posted on 12/12/2012 5:46:43 AM PST by bereanway
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The GOP — Not a Club For Christians
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When I saw the title I thought it meant Christians are not welcome...

We’re not of course...

Christians are Conservatives...


6 posted on 12/12/2012 5:51:32 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: SoFloFreeper
I just really don't care anymore about people for whom any mention of Christianity is taken as some kind of existential threat.

No other religion on this planet is expected to self-censor itself in public so thoroughly, and no other one does.

I don't want any more hot house flowers who wet their pants when they hear someone else's opinion; this country already has enough of them.

Is this the great "immigrant spirit" we're supposed to worship?

7 posted on 12/12/2012 5:54:23 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (So?)
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Imagine if most of the Republican Party was Hindu, you generally agreed with the Party on policy, but at Republican events, in articles, etc. there was as much mentioning of Brahma and Hinduism as there is of Christianity today.

Would it bother you in the slightest?


8 posted on 12/12/2012 6:05:57 AM PST by Strategerist
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As a conservative Christian, I don’t want to sail with this boat. I think, with the loss of the election to the unfaithful, it is time for conservatives to look at a 3rd party. Then, with the Republican party looking more like the Democratic party, hoping to gain on-the fence Democrats, and with the dilutions of both the party’s, we may have a chance. Fifty million people did not vote for this assault on America.


9 posted on 12/12/2012 6:06:47 AM PST by heavy9 (heavy 9)
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The villain isn't racism or bigotry or anything so simple.

The hell its not. Wasn't all the talk about the GOP being the party of old white men evidence enough?

Until we understand and acknowledge the gross double standard the left is promulgating and begin holding EVERYONE to the same standard of tolerance this country will continue its steepening descent.

10 posted on 12/12/2012 6:11:39 AM PST by skeeter
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Then, with the Republican party looking more like the Democratic party, hoping to gain on-the fence Democrats, and with the dilutions of both the party’s, we may have a chance.

You're going to dilute only one party - the GOP. Don't kid yourself.

If you want to create a regional party in the Bible Belt that has no ability to ever win the Presidency, and ends the GOP chances of doing so till the end of time, that's fine, but be sure you are clear on the actual implications.

11 posted on 12/12/2012 6:12:33 AM PST by Strategerist
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Imagine if most of the Republican Party was Hindu, you generally agreed with the Party on policy, but at Republican events, in articles, etc. there was as much mentioning of Brahma and Hinduism as there is of Christianity today.

If I moved to India I would choose the political party that offered the most individual freedom.

If they based their ideology upon Hinduism and made constant references to it, no I wouldn't mind religious references in the least.

12 posted on 12/12/2012 6:16:51 AM PST by skeeter
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I think there is a different reason underlying who Asians support, and who they do not.

Take the Chinese, for example. China is officially an atheist nation, but practically speaking, Christianity is rapidly becoming the religion of the entrepreneurial and business classes. The attitude is that successful people become Christians.

This attitude likely does not change when Chinese come to America.

Otherwise, Chinese have long been called “The Jews of the Orient”, because they share with Jews a very old Oriental philosophy of culture. It is not the same tradition, of course, but it is a parallel outlook on life and history.

And this outlook on life and history is very different from the western, Christian view of life and history.

On top of even that, the Chinese have long had a cultural but not particularly hostile, divide between Buddhism, Confucianism, and Taoism, living side by side. And Islam and Christianity have been there for centuries as well.

So at least as far as the Chinese are concerned, I don’t think that religion is a big sticking point with them in American politics.


13 posted on 12/12/2012 6:35:31 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Pennies and Nickels will NO LONGER be Minted as of 1/1/13 - Tim Geithner, US Treasury Sect)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Look, I am a Christian and not ashamed of the Gospel. If we can get Buddhists and Jews and Hindus to agree with us on sanctity of life and free markets, let's do it.

He's telling you to drop the Christianity, abrogate your faith publicly, and to burn incense on the public altar of "humanism".

Stop being such an American! You're making the new neighbors nervous!

14 posted on 12/12/2012 6:36:16 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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If they based their ideology upon Hinduism and made constant references to it, no I wouldn't mind religious references in the least.

In exact point of fact, the Indian BJT Party does exactly that; they're Hindu nationalists, and their main problem is runaway family/demographic expansion of the Moslem minority, which is now up to 30% of India's population. The whole idea of dividing India and Pakistan was to keep the warring Hindus and Moslems apart, and now it looks like the Moslems might be able to force a second partition by the exercise of their genitals.

Over here, however, you're not allowed to take such things into consideration -- that's divisive and a thought-crime, especially for you, since you are one of them, the hated, suspect them who need to be watched, categorically criticized at every turn, and criminalized at every opportunity.

15 posted on 12/12/2012 6:42:48 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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You are so right. We choose the political party that most closely represents our beliefs. It makes no sense for a non-christian Asian, who want economic opportunity to ally themselves with Democrats, no matter the religion of either party.

One does not have to pass a Christian-litmus test in order to be a Republican.

16 posted on 12/12/2012 6:45:28 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Strategerist
Imagine if most of the Republican Party was Hindu, ....Would it bother you in the slightest?

This is our house, Jack.

If you don't believe that, then get ready to pay rent for the privilege of working for minimum wage in the house your fathers built.

And get used to being called "chump" by smartass strangers on the make. They'll take you and take you -- because whatever you are, whatever you do, you aren't one of theirs.

Get it?

17 posted on 12/12/2012 6:50:45 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Strategerist

You are something of a leader of the anti-Christian, anti-social conservative, pro-liberal group here.

Now you plead for us to stay in this new anti-Christian GOP that you are striving for.

Christians will not support your agenda.


18 posted on 12/12/2012 6:55:58 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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(Article) A few years ago, Robert Putnam, a liberal sociologist, reported this finding: As racial and ethnic diversity increases, social trust and cohesion plummets.

If it hurts social trust and cohesion .... knock it off! To put that in Atlantic Slope vernacular, "Whaddaya, stoopid?! Knock it off, yer tearin' the country apart!"

Which is exactly what you want -- tearing the country apart -- if you're a Communist, a jihadi, or a Mau-Mau. Or all of the above.

19 posted on 12/12/2012 7:00:22 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Strategerist

You anti-Christian types have proven that you can’t even win against Carter’s second term.

Your Romney guy was an absolute disaster for the GOP and may be the cause of the party’s downfall.

You guys don’t know squat about what wins elections.


20 posted on 12/12/2012 7:00:57 AM PST by ansel12 (A.Coulter2005(truncated)Romney will never recover from his Court's create of a right to gay marriage)
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