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Why Sound Suppressors Matter
outdoorlife.com ^ | 12 December, 2012 | John B. Snow

Posted on 12/12/2012 5:23:13 PM PST by marktwain

At the latest count, 39 states allow civilians to own suppressors. If you live in one of these silencer-friendly states and haven’t purchased a suppressor, you need to put one on your Christmas list.

The advantages of suppressors are numerous. They not only protect your hearing but make shooting with a group of people much safer and improve marksmanship by reducing flinching.

I’ve been shooting at Gunsite this last week during the Shooting Slam and had a perfect object lesson demonstrating the value of suppressors the other day. We’ve been shooting the Rock River Arms LAR-15 ATH Carbine, which has a very effective, but loud, muzzle break on it. Naturally, we were all wearing good hearing protection, which is more than adequate most of the time, but during the third day of the event while practicing non-standard positions—a face-down prone used for shooting under vehicles—my ear muffs rolled off my head and left my ears ringing.

The incident was made worse by the fact that the muzzle of the gun was just a couple inches off the ground and the blast was channeled right back toward my head.

Even if the rifle had been equipped with a suppressor the noise level would have qualified as harmful—one of the many popular suppressor myths is that they “silence” the gun—but it would have been much less damaging to my ears.

I look forward to the day that suppressors are available over the counter and without the need for any special paperwork or the $200 tax stamp—as they are in many European countries—but we’re not there yet.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunmuffler; silencer; suppressor
Placing the many legal and financial barrier to the ownership and use of gun mufflers has been one of the biggest public health debacles of the century. Millions have lost hearing because of it.
1 posted on 12/12/2012 5:23:24 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Perhaps one of you with first-hand suppressor experience can answer a question for me. Were I to put one on a AR in 223, how long would it last (how many rounds) roughly? Or will they outlast the firearm?


2 posted on 12/12/2012 5:27:39 PM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: marktwain; All

As far as I can tell there are no rules or laws in the socialist state of MD regarding silencers.
BTW, baby bottle nipples work on a 22 for about 3 - 4 rounds.


3 posted on 12/12/2012 5:38:23 PM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: marktwain

http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/class-iii/115234-legally-making-homemade-silencers.html


4 posted on 12/12/2012 5:39:23 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: TheZMan

Depends on the design. Many are able to be disassembled and rebuilt at moderate cost.


5 posted on 12/12/2012 5:44:07 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: marktwain

According to:
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http://americansilencerassociation.com/education/
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The 39 States that currently allow civilian ownership of silencers are: ak, al, ar, az, co, ct, fl, ga, id, in, ks, ky, la, md, me, mi, mo, ms, mt, nc, nd, ne, nh, nm, nv, oh, ok, or, pa, sc, sd, tn, tx, ut, va, wa, wi, wv, and wy.


6 posted on 12/12/2012 5:51:26 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: TheZMan

It really depends on the type of suppressor, but one can be bought that will last as long as the rifle. But don’t expect the AR to be anywhere near silent. Most suppressors will reduce the sound by about 30-40 dB.


7 posted on 12/12/2012 6:56:14 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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To: TheZMan

to answer your question about the longevity of sound suppressors, several things come up. First is barrel length and frequency of firing. Second is quality of the suppressor itself. Last is type of ammunition used.

First, a shorter barrel creates higher pressure inside the sound suppressor. Couple that with rate of fire and you can shorten the life of a sound suppressor.

Second is the quality of the can itself. If you get a cheaply made suppressor, you’ll have a shorter life span than one that may cost more but last 10 times longer.

Last, well, if you use crap ammo, you’ll get poor results. Avoid tracers, corrosive ammo, and the like.

I have an AWC Thundertrap that has outlasted 5 barrels on my bolt action .308. If you treat them right and get a well made suppressor, it’s capable of outlasting the gun it’s mounted on.


8 posted on 12/12/2012 7:06:30 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: marktwain

About as legal as a machine gun.


9 posted on 12/12/2012 7:43:09 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Charles Martel; Blood of Tyrants; BCR #226

Thanks for the replies


10 posted on 12/12/2012 7:54:32 PM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: marktwain

“They outlaw suppressors and then complain that our shooting ranges are too loud...” Henry Bowman.


11 posted on 12/12/2012 7:58:37 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: RedMDer

BATFE: if you use it to reduce muzzle blast, and it works, register it first + $200 tax or you get jail for 10 years. Soda bottles and baby bottle nipples included.


12 posted on 12/12/2012 8:04:27 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Born to Conserve

Indeed. Pay your $200 tax, pay the steep price tag, and it’s yours.


13 posted on 12/12/2012 8:05:42 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: ctdonath2

Bumping an old thread here.....

Do you have a suppressor?
I just wrote a check for the SilencerCo Osprey in .45 caliber ($916). I’ve made the Gun Trust through a paralegal that I talked with at the Tanner Gun Show ($375), and am waiting a week for the item to arrive to my local class 3 shop (Denver Bullets). Still have to wait about a year for the Osprey to be in my hands, though.....DAMMIT!

There was a home invasion four blocks from my house. I don’t think bleeding out of me and my family’s ears should be a price to pay for defending our lives from thugs.

Anyhoo....BTTT!!


14 posted on 02/20/2014 3:19:04 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: RandallFlagg

Yup. AAC Omni, on a Colt AR15 SBR.
Not quiet, but not ear-bleeding loud.
Alas, taxes alone were as much as a Glock.


15 posted on 02/20/2014 9:43:44 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: ctdonath2

Did you do it through a gun trust?
Shocked the hell out of me when the class 3 guy said I could own a machine gun through my gun trust. Not that I have THAT kind of cash to throw around.


16 posted on 02/21/2014 7:08:20 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: RandallFlagg

Nope, my name only. While I understand the motivations for the trust route, I don’t trust (pun) it: being a path used for bureaucratic purposes, it can be screwed up with the stroke of a BATFE rule-changing pen. I’d rather the guns be registered to ME, because they’re MINE, and any stupid things the gov’t does to the NFA category won’t somehow render them not mine (as in: “Oh, sorry Mr. Flagg, we’ve decided that legal constructs aren’t people after all so we’re going to confiscate that very expensive machinegun; it legally isn’t yours, you know...”). Yeah that makes some things a bit harder/expensive like transferring to heirs, but that’s less subject to legal weirdness.

Dang. I just made up that scenario and it’s scaring me what the feds could do with it if they just got creative enough.


17 posted on 02/21/2014 12:01:16 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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