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Buffett, Soros Join List of Billionaires Calling for Tax Hikes They Won’t Pay
Yahoo Finance ^ | December13, 2012 | Matt Nesto

Posted on 12/13/2012 11:01:45 AM PST by Hojczyk

"I just got fed up. It wasn't just Warren Buffett. There's been a half dozen of these things lately, and what I noticed is everyone is asking for taxes to be raised except the taxes they actually pay," Brown told me on the sidelines of the Minyanville Festivus event.

So in that light, let's look at the gap that exists between proposed tax hikes and actual impact.

The proposed income tax increase on couples earning more than $250,000 year: Buffett's $100,000 a year salary is well known - as is the complaint that his poor, lowly secretary has a higher tax rate.

Then, there's his support for the recommended adjustment to tax dividends and capital gains as ordinary income instead of at the current 15% rate: Berkshire doesn't pay a dividend and Buffett never sells stocks.

And finally, we have his newest pitch to raise estate taxes: He's already pledged most of his fortune to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and said the rest will go to the tax-sheltered philanthropies his children run.

The Wall Street Journal nailed the Oracle of Omaha earlier this year, saying Buffett would not only avoid the so-called Buffett Rule, but he actually told the throngs who flock to his annual meeting to "follow my tax dodging example" and give their money away.

What irks me, and many others, is the flawed thinking that contends that these populist-inspired tax increases are the solution to all of our fiscal problems, when in fact they would barely make a dent in the deficit. And even then, these projected increases in tax revenues under different rate scenarios over a 10-year period would not only likely prove to be all wrong but also probably carry serious unintended consequences as well.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2012; buffett; corruption; democrats; fraud; soros; taxes

1 posted on 12/13/2012 11:01:51 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

The good news is that it’s being acknowledged that Buffett, et. al., are not going to pay any of these taxes.

The bad news is that it’s too late to turn back now, the tax hikes are inevitable to the rest of the soon-to-be serfs.

And the ruling class can get down to the business of owning the world.


2 posted on 12/13/2012 11:07:23 AM PST by MichaelCorleone ('We the People' can and will take this country back...starting today.)
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To: Hojczyk

Would there be a Constitutional issue on unequal taxation if the House actually passed a “loudmouth” tax?

Anyone publically calling for raising taxes would be subject to a 1% net worth tax.


3 posted on 12/13/2012 11:09:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Hojczyk

bttt


4 posted on 12/13/2012 11:15:18 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Hojczyk

Buffett and Soros are lying hypocrites. These two morons are screaming for taxes they’ll never pay. They pay people to make sure that they pay as little taxes as possible.


5 posted on 12/13/2012 11:15:59 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I feel sad for my once great country. We deserve everything that is about to happen to us.)
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To: MrB

1% ?

I’ve been saying 50% tax on net worth over $1B. The first year, you get a pretty big chunk of money. After that, not as much, but there’s much less talk from billionaires about taxes.


6 posted on 12/13/2012 11:18:23 AM PST by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Larry - Moe and Curly

Hey, no one says it couldn’t be a “progressive” loudmouth tax.

1% on all net worth,
5% on all net worth over X,
15% on all net worth over Y, etc.

A “marginal loudmouth tax rate”.


7 posted on 12/13/2012 11:22:09 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

“a “progressive” loudmouth tax”

I like it. As long as you call it a “tax”, there shouldn’t be any “Constitutional” issus from SCOTUS.


8 posted on 12/13/2012 11:25:27 AM PST by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
I wish I could dig up the article - it might have been in the National Review - about how Buffet profits from crony capitalism. He is in the thick of Washington lobbying for policies that his companies will gain a direct benefit from. I am not saying he isn't a smart investor and did well for his clients by being a good contrarian investor; however, his new incarnation is akin to the big business interests in Atlas Shrugged that benefited by having the ear of government on their side.
9 posted on 12/13/2012 11:33:26 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Larry - Moe and Curly
We should have a flat 15 percent for income, dividends and capital gains...no deductions.....people making less than a certain amount pay nothing but get nothing no food stamps etc
10 posted on 12/13/2012 11:34:46 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

The problem with the income tax is that it is a tax on people who work (wage earners). Not, necessarily, the evil rich.

The real wealthy are the trust funds, endowments, and foundations. They are tax free.


11 posted on 12/13/2012 11:50:09 AM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
And the ruling class can get down to the business of owning the world.

And run it into the ground like the good statist/totaltitalitarian that they are, because they don't know how to run a real business. They only know how to lobby congress and rulers for special privileges and laws to hurt their competitors that way they can clear the playing field. Hmmmm, sounds a lot like Obama and company.

Also note: Buffet and others make a killing off the death tax since the families involved have to quickly sell off assests for tax reasons which leaves no negotiating room to a fair market price with the vultures that circle above(Buffet, Soros, etc). Gives a new meaning to a "value investor." Create the value for yourself by lobbying government to hurt your fellow citizens.
12 posted on 12/13/2012 12:06:35 PM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: Hojczyk

So your house doubles in value over twenty years (largely due to inflation)and you want to give 15% of that gane over to the government when you sell?


13 posted on 12/13/2012 12:07:01 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Hojczyk

Buffett and Soros are domestic economic terrorists.


14 posted on 12/13/2012 12:22:52 PM PST by Arm_Bears (The MSM lies about conservatives; and it lies about liberals.)
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To: Hojczyk

“We should have a flat 15 percent for income...”

15% seems to be the number that is frequently posed for a flat tax. Not sure where it came from. If it’s to fund the government at its current size and scope, it’s waaaaaaayyyyy too much.


15 posted on 12/13/2012 4:32:09 PM PST by Larry - Moe and Curly (Loose lips sink ships.)
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To: Hojczyk
Warren 'Bull-S__' Buffutt only likes taxes he won't have to personally pay. But oddly he doesn't seem to like taxes he actually OWES, as he still won't pay.
How Much is Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Back-Tax Bill Exactly? About $1 Billion
August 30, 2011

According to page 56 of the company report, “At December 31, 2010… net unrecognized tax benefits were $1,005 million”, or about $1 billion.

Warren's little Berkshire Hathaway empire hasn't paid taxes since ...2001. Good thing Warren has friends 'in low places' ;-). If we peons tried that we'd be in an IRS prison somewhere in Kazakhstan.
16 posted on 12/14/2012 6:04:55 AM PST by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
I've always said that taxing the "rich" never happens...buffoons of the world know the way....

again, it'll be the middle class who will get taxed, somehow someway it'll fall on us...

too bad it'll also hit those just on the verge of doing well....the lucky ones at $250,000.....on cusp of the good life but never will be allowed to enjoy.....

the whole point of communism is to enable the few to take the majority of the benefits.....they'll buy up everything....

don't want no stinking peasantry mucking up Sherwood Forest...

17 posted on 12/14/2012 7:48:09 AM PST by cherry
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To: Hojczyk
"I made enough money to buy Miami, but I pissed it away so fast."

Oops, wrong Buffett. My bad.

18 posted on 12/14/2012 7:55:01 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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