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White House, nonprofit groups battle over charitable deductions [Obama Hates Churches & Charity]
Washington Post ^ | 12/13/12 | Jerry Markon and Peter Wallsten

Posted on 12/13/2012 1:55:22 PM PST by SoFloFreeper

The White House and the nation’s most prominent charities are embroiled in a tense, behind-the-scenes debate over President Obama’s push to scale back the nearly century-old tax deduction on donations that the charities say is crucial for their financial health.

In a series of recent meetings and calls, top White House aides have pressed nonprofit groups to line up behind the president’s plan for reducing the federal deficit and averting the year-end “fiscal cliff,” according to people familiar with the talks.

In part, the White House is seeking to win the support of nonprofit groups for Obama’s central demand that income tax rates rise for upper-end taxpayers. There are early signs that several charities, whose boards often include the wealthy, are willing to endorse this change.

But the White House is also looking to limit the charitable deduction for high-income earners, and that has prompted frustration and resistance, with leaders of major nonprofit organizations, such as the United Way, the American Red Cross and Lutheran Services of America, closing ranks in opposing any change to the deduction.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: charitablededuction; charities; churches; fiscalcliff; kindness; taxes

1 posted on 12/13/2012 1:55:29 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
He wants the federal government to have total control over every aspect of life so they are essentially your mommy.
2 posted on 12/13/2012 1:59:26 PM PST by THE_RAIDER
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To: SoFloFreeper

Meanwhile, Obama (the Undocumented Tyrant) has US taxpayers
Funding Mosques and terrorists all over the world.


3 posted on 12/13/2012 2:02:12 PM PST by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Without a tax deduction most of these Charities will go out of business.


4 posted on 12/13/2012 2:04:12 PM PST by Venturer
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To: THE_RAIDER

This is a signature of a “progressive.”
Ditto tipping a restaurant server.


5 posted on 12/13/2012 2:05:44 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Obviously Obama wants to have people turning to Gov’t on all levels for relief. To diminish the role of private charities and religious charities. If when they get less money (tax deductible donations) from the wealthy and others, then Gov’t role gets larger and functions as a charity


6 posted on 12/13/2012 2:09:40 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Bad news for BMW dealers and jewelry stores.


7 posted on 12/13/2012 2:10:00 PM PST by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This has been coming for a while. The Leftists hate that people are out there doing good works without the government being involved. If they get rid of this, it will mean just that many more people who have to beg King Obama and his minions in order to stay in business.


8 posted on 12/13/2012 2:13:20 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: SoFloFreeper

I know it’s un-Christian to feel this way, but apart from the Salvation Army and local church drives, my charitable giving is way down this year.

Obama is their lord and master; let Obama feed and clothe them and stuff their Christmas stockings with Obama phones.

Why should I give my money to organizations that support the people that vote out American values every time ? Organizations like Red Cross. Why donate? We got Obama’s FEMA right?


9 posted on 12/13/2012 2:17:13 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Soros’s of the Left will still give their minions their stipends.
They get a good ROI even without the deduction.

Plus all the sex and power-tripping...


10 posted on 12/13/2012 2:20:01 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Venturer

He wants

it

ALL.

Sie konnen nicht geben seine franken auf nichts, oder dem Fuhrer.


11 posted on 12/13/2012 2:23:55 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: AmusedBystander

I like your style!

I had a vision of a million SoyHippies and racehustlers brains exploding in panic that their gravytrain is coming in for a dizzy crash landing. Many non-profits in big cities are often no more than parasites living on the backs of other parasites and developing parasite colonies.

Churches should be selling self-reliance and backbone instead of following in their stead IMO. I guess if things change and there are no tax deductions, the churches will still take care of their own while the liberals will leave theirs to rot like yesterday’s produce.


12 posted on 12/13/2012 2:26:58 PM PST by februus
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To: SoFloFreeper

You voted for Scrouge. Merry Xmas!!!! and happy holidays.....


13 posted on 12/13/2012 2:33:06 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: A'elian' nation

In my area, charitable organizations and universities are the repositories of liberals between elections.

After living in the same town for over half a century, it suddenly occurred to me that I didn’t know a single person that had benefitted from the money that United Way, Red Cross, etc. had been collecting for all that time. Frankly, if Mr. Obama decides to disallow charitable deductions for tax purposes, it suits me. I’ll be glad to see my church ungagged, too. I can’t help wondering if ministers and priests will have the courage to speak out on their real convictions, once the IRS restraints are gone.


14 posted on 12/13/2012 2:36:12 PM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

dictatorship


15 posted on 12/13/2012 2:39:20 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: A'elian' nation

You can give to the Heritage Foundation, the Acton Institute, Samaritan’s Purse, Voices of the Martyrs, and Live Action all for a tax deduction. These aren’t charities for leeches, but ones that go to truly great causes.

Oh, and don’t forget the Boy Scouts!


16 posted on 12/13/2012 2:39:43 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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17 posted on 12/13/2012 2:46:26 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: SoFloFreeper

another exemption under the gun is state and local taxes
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/12/13/obama-boehner-to-take-on-blue-model-funding-source/


18 posted on 12/13/2012 3:26:09 PM PST by Reverend Wright (1990 Budget Agreement: learn from other's mistakes)
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To: Venturer
Without a tax deduction most of these Charities will go out of business.

I don't know about that -- and don't take that as an endorsement of Obama's plan. Good people who believe in a charity will still contribute.

Now, the bigger issue is what will happen to non-profits we don't normally consider "charities." I'm thinking of leftist outfits like the Sierra Club, Wildlife Federation, and the hundreds of other liberal groups that provide employment to hundreds of thousands of little lefties.

Though I'm leery of eliminating the charitable deduction and understand clearly that Obama is trying to replace them with government, I get a secret shiver up my leg at the thought of all those liberal, make-work, phony charities going belly-up.

19 posted on 12/13/2012 4:57:45 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: BfloGuy

There are many things that are going to happen to Obama voters that they have no inclination of. They will be confused when their Grandmothers die because of rationing of healthcare, they will be amazed that their taxes go up just as our do, They will be standing in line at the Obama clinics wondering what happened, just as now they wonder why their jobs have stopped providing their health care, and why they will only be working 29 hrs a week.

Just as an incoming tide raises all boats the Obama tide will lave us all adrift. The only difference is that we know it and they do not. They believe Government will bail them out, but they forget that with only half of us working we cannot continue to support them.

Obama voters have a rude awakening coming to them, what happens to us will also happen to them.


20 posted on 12/13/2012 5:03:38 PM PST by Venturer
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hey I know you’re right. Plenty of good causes. I do give to the local boy scouts. It’s just the so-called national ‘humanitarian’ groups that I just can’t stomach anymore.

I just feel like it is going to a demonrat slush fund.


21 posted on 12/13/2012 5:06:30 PM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Venturer

We are the ants.
They are the grasshoppers.

Winter’s coming.

be the ant.


22 posted on 12/14/2012 4:52:39 AM PST by Texas resident
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To: Texas resident

Let me correct your analogy.

We are the ants.
They are the big foot that is stepping on us.


23 posted on 12/14/2012 5:07:48 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Unless we bite them.


24 posted on 12/14/2012 6:02:13 AM PST by Texas resident
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