The Republicans Have Failed the Nation

RedState ^ | December 13th, 2012 | Erick Erickson

[x]

Romney actually left the republican party during the 1980 campaign.

If you had any evidence of that you would have produced it by now.

[ansel12]

Fine words and all, but what do you propose to do about it?
It’s not like people like me—26 years old, almost no money, no job, barely scraping up $100 per week, crushing debt, only have a computer because it’s how I earn what little money I can—can buy guns, ammo, and food to stockpile for the oncoming crash, like so many people are gleefully saying they’ll do.
And all the ‘I-told-you-so’s in the world aren’t going to fill the stomach of myself or my family.
So what do I do now?

Don't confuse politics and bad government with surviving, you aren't going through anything unusual, just get a job and keep struggling to improve your life everyday, with luck maybe you'll have it easier in 30 or 40 years.

You don't really want to hear all of our tough life stories do you? How would you like to be in your situation and not be 26, but instead be 56, or 66?

Judging from your words, my guess is that you are going to have serious problems in life.

[x]

Romney actually left the republican party during the 1980 campaign.

If you had any evidence of that you would have produced it by now.

And yet you go on repeating it with no evidence at all.

[okie01]

Only conservatives have been accomplishing anything remotely positive for the USA since Reagan was first elected. Everything else the "Republicans" have worked for has been for political show.

I would submit that every presidential election since 1980 and every congressional election since 1994 has been "about the Republicans".

If they governed well -- and conservatively -- they won. If they governed poorly, they got defeated.

For example, in 2006, the Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and the Democrats didn't win; Trent Lott and Denny Hastert and the Republicans lost. The GOP had proved itself unworthy of governing.

Examine every election after the above start points and tell me otherwise.

[okie01]

...loud voices of conservatism will not get plumb committee assignments,

Eric, Eric, Eric...Spellcheck is not your friend.

A fruit is called for, not a trade.

[okie01]

Principled stands are fine. Food for thought though, a grand bargain last year as compared to what we are going to get this time. Which do you think would have been better?

Had we given away more last year, we would be giving away even more this year.

Weakness is weakness.

[ansel12]

Gosh, the romneybots are showing up.

[Lancey Howard]

Romney: "Look, I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to take us back to Reagan-Bush."

[Revolting cat!]

The Nation has failed the Republicans, who, whatever they may be, aren’t Marxists like Obama and his gang.

[Resettozero]

Your points are well-made and I do not refute them other than to say there is a difference between getting elected and doing good for the country. I’m not questioning the election successes of the Republican Party; I’ve been quite happy with some of them. I helped elect some of those members of the RP.

If you read what I wrote in that post with the assurance that I speak as a conservative American loyalist and not as a Republican Party member, past or present, then you can see that I’m more interested in what’s Constitutionally good for the USA, that builds up and maintains the foundations of our Nation, than in just one Party winning elections for power, prestige, money, and show.

[x]

The implication is that somehow Reaganism drove Romney from the party or he left in disgust. I don't see any evidence of that. Young Mitt just wasn't as political as ansel12 wants to believe.

If you live in a Democratic-dominated open primary state, like Massachusetts, you just might be an independent or "unenrolled." It allows you to vote in either primary.

Once upon a time when there were still conservative Democrats running in Massachusetts and Republicans couldn't win anyway, it wasn't a bad deal.

Anyway, my family were "unenrolled" or independent during the Reagan years. We voted for Reagan anyway.

[ansel12]

If you had any evidence of that you would have produced it by now. And yet you go on repeating it with no evidence at all.

That is a form of lying to these people.

Pretending that I have been asked to produce evidence for the claim and have never done so.

[okie01]

I speak as a conservative American loyalist and not as a Republican Party member, past or present, then you can see that I’m more interested in what’s Constitutionally good for the USA...

I don't dispute that. I was merely pointing out that, when the Republican party governs conservatively, they win. When they don't, they lose. <

I believe this reinforces your point; it doesn't attack it.

[Resettozero]

The Nation has failed the Republicans, who, whatever they may be, aren’t Marxists like Obama and his gang.

Obviously, that has not been enough to thwart the "Marxists". The part you wrote saying the Nation has failed the Republicans...well...I don't see where you're coming from but that's okay.

[Revolting cat!]

Sorry, more to the point the Nation has failed the Nation, as someone stated earlier.

[ansel12]

The implication is that somehow Reaganism drove Romney from the party or he left in disgust. I don't see any evidence of that. Young Mitt just wasn't as political as ansel12 wants to believe.

Don't post about me and not ping me. Romney has been deeply involved in politics all of his life. His first job in politics was as a teen intern.

[Resettozero]

I was merely pointing out that, when the Republican party governs conservatively, they win. When they don't, they lose.

Apology for unintentionally misconstruing that; of course, I agree. And continually wonder why the GOPe fights us more severely than they do the Democrat Party.

[ansel12]

Once upon a time when there were still conservative Democrats running in Massachusetts and Republicans couldn't win anyway, it wasn't a bad deal.

Romney was the fourth republican governor in a row in a state that prefers GOP governors, in fact he gave up his supporting of democrats, democrat fundraising, and voting, to reregister republican in October of 1993, for the reason of running for office in Massachusetts.

[okie01]

And continually wonder why the GOPe fights us more severely than they do the Democrat Party. <

It's quite simple: They don't believe what we believe.

They are creatures of Washington. They want to run the government, sure. But they'd prefer running a big government over running a smaller government.

When you boil the problem down, it amounts to Washington vs The Rest Of Us.

[dagogo redux]

It was a rhetorical device, Laz. :)